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Date:      Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:16:36 -0700
From:      Scott Long <scott_long@btc.adaptec.com>
To:        "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Cc:        "Long, Scott" <Scott_Long@adaptec.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Upgrade from 4.6-STABLE (July) to 4.7-STABLE loses SCSI card?
Message-ID:  <20021128151635.GA37417@hollin.btc.adaptec.com>
In-Reply-To: <20021128094423.E16724-100000@hub.org>
References:  <20021128001944.GA36276@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> <20021128094423.E16724-100000@hub.org>

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On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:46:20AM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Scott Long wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:35:08PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Scott Long wrote:
> > >
> > > > This hasn't changed since 4.6 and isn't the problem.  The pciconf and
> > > > dmesg that you posted show that the PCI ID's for your 39160 aren't even
> > > > getting probed by the OS.  I imagine that this card is the only card
> > > > consuming a PCI slot, with everything else being on the motherboard,
> > > > yes? If so, there could be a problem where the PCI bridge that controls
> > > > the slots isn't being probed correctly.  That's why it would be nice to
> > > > see the dmsg/pciconf from 4.6.
> > >
> > > Okay, now I'm confused ... I just downgraded to RELENG_4, from July 1st:
> > >
> > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 date=2002.07.01.00.00.00
> > >
> > > And I still can't see the card ... I'm starting to wonder if I saw the
> > > card in the first place, except that that server has been running well
> > > *since* July ...
> > >
> > > The really stupid thing is that the motherboard BIOS is seeing the card, I
> > > can go into the BIOS and it shows the card in slot4, and I can go into the
> > > card and probe all the drives ...
> > >
> >
> > I have no doubts whatsoever that the system BIOS can see the card.  However,
> > something seems to be broken in FreeBSD, and from the little bit of
> > information that you provided, it's not the ahc driver that is at
> > fault.  Since I don't have any IBM servers nearby that I can experiment
> > with, I really need as much information from you as possible.  If
> > 4.6 from the install floppies works, then please, please, please post
> > the dmesg and pciconf output from that.
> 
> Hi Scott ...
> 
>   I'm *really* growing to hate IBM servers ... the @#$@#$$ box has no
> non-64bit slots in her, so I can't even test a different card to see if
> it can register any cards on the PCI bus :(  The only 64bit cards I have,
> other then that one adaptec, is a ServeRAID-4 card, but from what I can
> find on the web, its not support yet ... ?

You can put a 32-bit card into a 64-bit slot so long as it will fit.  There
are keys on the connector that indicate 3.3V and 5V requirements for the
card and slot.  If the card is keyed the same way as the slot, then it
will work regardless if it's 64 bit or not.
Even though the ServeRAID card isn't supported (yet), it would be interesting
to put it in and see what pciconf says about it.  If it doesn't show up
there either, then it's pretty good proof of a PCI problem.

> 
>   I'm downloading a linux boot disk right now, to see if it can recognize
> the card and will work from that ...

I'm assuming that when you upgraded that you didn't blow away /var/log from
the original install?  If so, would you have an old /var/log/messages that
recorded the boot messages from when it worked?

Scott

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