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Date:      Sat, 6 Aug 2016 14:15:36 +1000
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Mark Martinec <Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3
Message-ID:  <20160806041536.GL86883@eureka.lemis.com>
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On Friday,  5 August 2016 at 18:56:33 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
> On 05.08.2016 18:44, Mark Martinec wrote:
>> On 2016-08-05 17:23, Andrey Chernov wrote:
>>> On 05.08.2016 17:47, Mark Martinec wrote:
>>>> [Bug 211598]
>>>>   date(1) default format in en_EN locale breaks compatibility with 10.3
>>>> and violates POSIX
>>>>
>>>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211598
>>>
>>> It breaks compatibility but not violates POSIX. POSIX care of only its
>>> own POSIX (or C) locale.
>>
>> POSIX does say that the default format should be the same
>> as with "+%a %b %e %H:%M:%S %Z %Y".
>> It also says that %a and %b are locale's abbreviated names.
>
> It is true for _POSIX_ locale only, as I already say. en_US.* is not
> POSIX or C locale.

It still violates POLA.

Greg
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