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Date:      Fri, 03 Dec 1999 16:52:46 +0000
From:      Adam Laurie <adam@algroup.co.uk>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
Cc:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: rc.firewall revisited
Message-ID:  <3847F55E.B546B2EB@algroup.co.uk>
References:  <199912021954.LAA74271@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <3846FA12.F1480F19@algroup.co.uk> <199912022343.QAA08462@mt.sri.com> <3847ACBE.3D66A556@algroup.co.uk> <3847C0CB.2E9774A@algroup.co.uk> <199912031601.JAA10973@mt.sri.com>

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Nate Williams wrote:

> >
> > And, of course, it also means you are wide open to attack from a
> > compromised name server. I do not want to trust hosts. I want to trust
> > specific connections to specific services.
> 
> How do you propose to stop a compromised name server from giving out
> bogus information using a firewall rule?  I'm curious...

Please re-read my statement. Who said anything about bogus information?
I'm talking about connecting to UDP ports (like NFS) that you're not
supposed to be able to connect to. Since his rule passes UDP that is
sourced from port 53 on the nameserver to ANY UDP port on ANY machine,
you are wide open to *attack*, not misinformation. At some point, your
chain of name servers has to talk to the outside world, so this means
the machine that does the final relay is open to attack from the outside
world.

cheers,
Adam
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