Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:13:14 -0800 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> Cc: dan@langille.org, Nils Holland <nils@tisys.org>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Your Makefile has been rebuilt. Message-ID: <3C4792CA.8070506@owt.com> References: <20020116120903.Q36638-100000@m20.unixathome.org>; from dan@unixathome.org on Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 12:13:20PM -0500 <3C45BAB8.13712.2547CD31@localhost> <3C478A1F.6000900@owt.com>
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Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Dan Langille wrote: > >> On 16 Jan 2002 at 20:28, Nils Holland wrote: >> >> >>> It does not tell people what they should >>> already know, namely that it's important to have the clock and >>> timezoen set >>> up the right way. >>> >> >> How would they know that? I mean, I know that. You know that. How >> did we find out? > > > > Ruslan started pushing it on Stable a long time ago. I don't remember > who said it first. It might have been O'Brien when the upgrade to 4.1 > came around. It became common knowledge on stable a long time ago. An additional comment. When I remember it popping up as a problem was when Perl was upgraded. I think whoever figured out what the problem was understood that the Makefile for perl was being generated as part of the buildworld and that an out of date clock created the "your makefile was regenerated" problem. It may have been something as simple as their email timestamp was obviously out of step. I think that anyone who has been following stable since that time thinks about the system clock first on strange errors and then looks at other possibilities. There are other makefiles that can be a problem. A side effect of the 9 Sep 2001 cvsup bug adds to the problem because it sets the date of the new code to second "0", which is ~1 Jan 70. An old object module is then newer than the source code that was just updated and things can really get bad in a hurry. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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