Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:00:33 -0400 From: Matt Smith <webmaster@forsetti.com> To: Helge Oldach <helge.oldach@atosorigin.com> Cc: Mike Jakubik <mikej@trigger.net>, fred@condo.chico.ca.us, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd vs ports sshd Message-ID: <3D2CAE81.6010706@forsetti.com> References: <200207102123.XAA04329@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com>
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Perhaps there are better ways, but here is a "simple" solution to the issue of "apps in the base system" vs. "apps from ports": Install these apps (ssh, sendmail, etc) in the base system as packages. In other words, a basic install would still install these components, but they would be installed in /usr/local/, and would be registered with the pkg db, so they can easily be removed, maintained, upgraded, etc. Also, this may allow for 2 new installation options: "Functional Base" and "Minimal Base", with the only difference being the inclusion of a default set of packages in the "Functional Base". Just my $0.02, -Matt Helge Oldach wrote: > Mike Jakubik: > >>In no way am I saying that curtail services like syslogd or inetd should be >>taken out. But things like openssh, sendmail, certain libs, and basically >>most software that is available and up to date via the ports. > > > No, it shouldn't. I want a full-function system with a decent MTA, a > decent secure login facility, a decent time synchronization facility, a > decent nameserver, and so on. I *don't* want a base system that isn't > good for anything but eating CPU. > > This is not a question of getting the base system "pure" and to adhere > minimalization efforts with a slightly religious attitude, but to have > a base system that people can do something useful with. (Yes, I have > several servers that don't have a single port installed because the base > system just provides all I need.) > > Note that I don't care too much about *which* basic server software is > included in the base system, however I admit that I have chosen FreeBSD > for the reason that it has all the well-known stuff of sendmail, ssh, > xntp and bind on board. > > Helge > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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