Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:20:36 -0500 From: Michael Clark <MClark@Nemschoff.com> To: 'Bawan' <bawan@baldwinresearch.com>, 'Jerry McAllister' <jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD Message-ID: <A2A28DB6D52E084783ACD6E6C6F5D790022872F4@EMAILSERVER2.nemschoff.com>
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You will actually need "volume magic" instead of partition magic I believe. Unless the product has changed partition magic will not work with the server OS's from Microsoft. Michael Clark Nemschoff Chairs Inc mclark at nemschoff dot com CompTIA A+, Network+, Server+, MCP Voice: (920) 457 7726 x294 Fax: (920) 453 6594 > -----Original Message----- > From: Bawan [mailto:bawan@baldwinresearch.com] > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 5:17 PM > To: 'Jerry McAllister' > Cc: 'Steve Bertrand'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD > > > I deleted the partition and made 1.5Gb of DOS partition. I > made two floppy > disks as per the instruction. When installing, it read first > floppy and ask > for second and After that I get kernel configuration menu, I > treid "skip > kernel" other "configure kernel in visual mode". After "save" > option, it > says rebooting...and after reboot, I don't get Sysconfig > menu. When I remove > disk, it boots to dos and when I reboot without removing > disk, it says > > >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > Default:0:fd(0,a)/kernel > Boot: > > I don't what to do after this. I am windows guy and this is > my first FreeBSD > installation. > Its kind of frustration for me now. Please help. Do I have to > format the dos > partition without loading OS on it or what. > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 1:38 PM > To: Bawan > Cc: 'Steve Bertrand'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: problem while installing FreeBSD > > > > > It's the same problem when I remove CD. Does it make sense: I am > installing > > on the machine which already have Windows 2003 server, and > file system > NTFS. > > I thought FreeBSD may take care of this file system or it > may allow me to > do > > partition while installing. Thanks. > > Oh. Did you use something to resize the disk slices before > you started > the install? FreeBSD will only install [correctly] into empty space > on the disk or wipe out everything and install over the top of the > whole thing. It will not resize the NTFS slice for you. > > If you want to install FreeBSD on the machine as a dual-boot system > and keep the preinstalled Win2k stuff running, then you need to > shrink the NTFS down to make room for FreeBSD. > > A disk can have up to 4 primary slices (which MS calls > 'partitions', by > the way) that are numbered 1..4. Generally if you buy a machine and > it has something MS preinstalled on it, that MS stuff takes > all of the > disk and makes it one slice, leaving 3 logically to work with, but no > room for them. > > If the system was from some vendor like Dell, they might have > also put a > slice with their own diagnostics on the machine, thus using > two slices > and leaving only 2 slices that can be created. The diagnostic slice > usually is very small and MS takes the rest of the disk. > > Now, if you want to add FreeBSD and still keep the MS (and > possibly the > diagnostic) slice[s] you need to shrink the MS slice to make room to > create another slice, using one of the remaining slice numbers. (The > diagnostic slice would be to small to bother with and should just be > left alone) > > If you need to shrink the NTFS slice, then you need something like > Partition Magic which is put out by Power Quest to do that before > you start with the FreeBSD installation. If it was a FAT or FAT32 > slice, there are some free utilities that can be used, but the last > I knew, they would not safely handle NTFS. Partition Magic seems > to be the most readily available one that can handle shrinking NTFS. > It is not free, but is pretty cheap. You can usually find it at > such places as Best Buy and Circuit City in the USA and by some > online stores. The price was about $69 US. > > When you get it, > - take the CD and make the two floppies according to > the instructions. Forget trying to use it by installing it. > - Then boot from the floppies. > - Look around until you are familiar and clear what you already > have on disk. > - Shrink the NTFS slice from the top - eg don't try to make room > before it, make it at the end of the NTFS slice. > - Have Partition Magic complete its pending operations - just quit > and say yes to its questions about completing them. > - Boot up again from the floppies. > - Create a new primary slice out of the new empty space and make > it an unspecified (unknown) type (or maybe FAT32 might also be OK). > but don't make it any kind of extended slice or other MS sort of > thing. > - Again make it complete pending operations. > - At this time you should be able to install FreeBSD in the newly > created slice. When you do, make sure that is what you select > and not the 'use the whole disk' option. It will be slice 2 if > there is only MS already on the disk and slice 3 if there is both > a diagnostic slice and an MS slice. If you also have Linux or > something else there as well, it might be slice 4. If there are > already 4 slices being used on the disk, you can't do it without > getting rid of something first. > - During the part in the FreeBSD install where you choose the slice > and create it, first you should might want to tell it to delete > the new slice and then create it again - it will use only > the empty > space. You shouldn't have to do this I don't think, but I have > had trouble in the past if I just tried to accept the slice as it > was created by Partition Magic without having FreeBSD do it too. > Then, make sure you tell it to make the slice bootable by selecting > that slice and choosing that option. > > After all this, then you go on to make UNIX partitions within that > slice with the disklabel editor - using the one built in to the > sysinstall, preferably. > > NOTE, that both MS and Partion Magic refer to the slices as > partitions. > Just remember that Partition Magic works on slices in FreeBSD > parlance. > In FreeBSD, partitions are subdivisions of slices. That can get a > little confusing. > > Unfortunately in FreeBSD (at least in 4.xx) there are still a > few places > where the word partition is used when it means slice too. Most of the > documentation, and especially the man pages have been cleaned > up in 5.xx > but I noticed a place or two in the messages used during the > disk building > that still use the terms incorrectly. > > Now, all this long harrangue may be moot if you do not want > to keep the > MS system available on the disk as a dual boot. In that case, you > just choose 'Use the whole disk for one big FreeBSD slice' option and > let it wipe out everything that is already there. Or, use Partition > Magic to delete the MS slice, but still keep the diagnostic slice if > there is one and you want to keep it. > > Or, if you have already managed to wipe out the MS stuff (not > a bad idea > actually) but you didn't really mean to, you need to install it back > on the disk before doing the Partition Magic stuff and then > the FreeBSD > stuff. > > Maybe this will help. > > ////jerry > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:iaccounts@ibctech.ca] > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:24 AM > > To: Bawan > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD > > > > > > > > I tried with options Start kernel configuration and Skip Kernel > > > Configuration and have same result. Keyboard is not > getting "off" even I > > > do > > > cold boot, but system start and same thing repeats. > > > > > > > It sounds like you still have the CD in the drive...Did you > follow the > > instruction to "Remove any removable media from the > drive.." before you > > rebooted the machine? > > > > Remove the CD (if it is in the CD drive) and boot from the hard disk > > instead. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steve > > > > > My computer description is: > > > > > > API Multiprocessor PC > > > NVDIA RIVA TNT2 Model display card > > > NIC 3COM (3c905c-TX) > > > Processors: > > > AMD Athlon (tm) MP 1900+ > > > AMD Athlon (tm) MP 1900+ > > > > > > SCSI and RAID Controller: > > > SX6000(tm) IDE RAID Controller > > > > > > Please let me know if you need anymore hardware information. > > > Note: I am installing from CD, do you think I have to try > installing > from > > > FTP. > > > Thanks. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:iaccounts@ibctech.ca] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:47 AM > > > To: Bawan > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD > > > > > >> I just started installing it. There is no any extra peripheral > connected > > >> to > > >> it. I think I am on first step, I am suppose to get > Sysinstall menu > > >> after > > >> reboot, but it gets stuck after saying rebooting... > > > > > > When replying to a post, please ensure you Cc: the list, so that > everyone > > > following the thread knows what is happening. It is also > beneficial to > > > knew users who 'lurk' but haven't yet posted that may be > having similar > > > issues. > > > > > > Now, back to the subject... > > > > > > If you've already installed FBSD, sysinstall should not > come back up by > > > default. The machine should boot, then you should be > dropped right at > the > > > command prompt. > > > > > > If I understand correctly, the last message you see is > 'Rebooting...'? > If > > > this is so, what happens after a cold boot? Post the > messages where it > > > gets stuck. > > > > > > Also, this may be a good time to post your hardware > (mobo, NIC, and > > > additional info). > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Thanks. > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:iaccounts@ibctech.ca] > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:07 AM > > >> To: Bawan > > >> Cc: freebsd-questions.org@ibctech.ca > > >> Subject: Re: problem while installing FreeBSD > > >> > > >>> I am installing FreeBSD 4.10 from CD. The computer hung up after > > >>> rebooting > > >>> and I am not getting Probe result. Computer and > keyboard seems to be > > >>> hung > > >>> up. > > >> > > >> Where exactly is it hung? What is the last few lines of > output that is > > >> displayed? > > >> > > >> Do you have any extra peripherals plugged in (ie. > scanner, camera, CF > > >> cards etc)? If so, unplug all unneccisary devices and try to boot > again. > > >> > > >> Steve > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I don't see any conflicting devices on my computer. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Can you help me on this? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Thanks. > > >>> > > >>> bawan > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This electronic transmission, including all attachments, is directed in confidence solely to the person(s) to whom it is addressed, or an authorized recipient, and may not otherwise be distributed, copied or disclosed. 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