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Date:      Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:27 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
Cc:        Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, Ed Schouten <ed@nuxi.nl>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: r286615: /usr/libexec/ftpd broken!
Message-ID:  <A8136F89-29A4-4A41-AD5C-07C6705A2A37@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20150818155755.GG3158@zxy.spb.ru>
References:  <20150811074041.6700e943@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20150811104451.2031fff2@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <CABh_MKm9tD=Fa1MZTGLUkF=MF7y%2Bf8Oy6n3oy5Ty93pWrBohHA@mail.gmail.com> <20150818071559.4278987d@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <CB8C88A1-5AC3-4E66-965B-D91D9724D147@xcllnt.net> <alpine.GSO.1.10.1508181137490.22210@multics.mit.edu> <20150818155755.GG3158@zxy.spb.ru>

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> On Aug 18, 2015, at 08:57, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
>=20
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:38:47AM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
>=20
>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>>=20
>>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:15 PM, O. Hartmann =
<ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Port security/heimdal installs its own ftpd with its appropriate =
manpages.
>>>=20
>>> Ugh :-(
>>=20
>> I would argue that heimdal should not be in the business of supplying =
an
>> ftpd.  Kerberos-enabled ftp basically does not offer any advantages =
over
>> scp.
>=20
> OPENSSH_NONE_CIPHER is OFF by default, i.e. ftp can give more speed.

More pragmatically, there are less ssh clients (openssh or bust really), =
whereas there are more ftp clients (Firefox, Chrome, ftp(1), python, =
etc).
Cheers,
-NGie




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