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Date:      Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:51:06 -0500
From:      "Troy Settle" <st@i-plus.net>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, "Doug White" <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>
Cc:        <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: speaking of 3.4... 
Message-ID:  <FNEMIHIFMKFBMDBKFDPBEEDNCAAA.st@i-plus.net>
In-Reply-To: <2190.943382085@localhost>

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A suggestion if I might.

Not everyone has the time to do proper preparation for testing a release
candidate.  But, if provided with a copy of the CD, I'm sure you could find
enough people to test and report problems.

I've had a subscription to FreeBSD since 2.something, and usually never use
the CDs shipped to me except for the occasional fresh installation or
retrieving a package that I'm too lazy to build from the ports.  But, in the
interest of building a better product for release, if I were to recieve an
RC distribution on CD, I would gladly install and test it.

So, how about a release cycle like this:

Step 1:
	Freeze the code
	Burn 100-200 copies (CD 1 only)
	Ship to folks who volunteer to test

Step 2:
	Receive and collate feedback

Step 3:
	Fix bugs
	If there were major bugs, repeat
	If no major bugs, then release


Ya know, I might even be willing to pay $5-10 for the privilage of being an
RC tester.


-Troy



** -----Original Message-----
** From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
** [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jordan K. Hubbard
** Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 1:35 PM
** To: Doug White
** Cc: Jordan K. Hubbard; stable@FreeBSD.ORG
** Subject: Re: speaking of 3.4...
**
**
** > Our release QA is horrible.  Look at what Apple does -- they sit on the
** > release candidate for a *month*, with *no changes at all*,
** before putting
**
** The problem is that Apple also gets people to LOOK at the release
** candidate for that month.  I generally get absolutely no feedback at
** all until 2 days before the release goes "gold" and then a lot more
** feedback about a week after.  They always start the same way, too
** "Sorry I didn't have time to tell you this before, but..." :-)
**
** - Jordan
**
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