Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:10:38 -0500 From: "Mike Jakubik" <mikej@trigger.net> To: "Thomas Hurst" <tom.hurst@clara.net>, <stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <HPEHJFKBNEHFPAOFMEDDCEGDDCAA.mikej@trigger.net> In-Reply-To: <20020327105845.GA9999@voi.aagh.net>
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I totally agree with you. Many programs that are integrated by default into FreeBSD change much more often than FreeBSD does, OpenSSH being a good example. Many people also dislike whats integrated i.e. sendmail (i personally use postfix, cant stand sendmail). I would love to see a bare FreeBSD install that stayed that way when updating via cvs. Perhaps an option in the installation, that would also change the necessary configurations to keep programs like sendmail out. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Thomas Hurst Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:59 AM To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed * Helge Oldach (helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) wrote: > Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are > traditionally part of the base system. I hate sendmail with a passion. I use exim; hence it's just added bloat sitting in my rather full /usr. The existance of more up-to-date ports for a lot of what's in the base system means many people don't want any trace of them from the base system; e.g. Perl. Additionally, many parts of the base system are not required or wanted on simple systems; if I have a tiny 486 I want to turn into a firewall, I don't want to spend hours trimming down the base system to fit on it. I suggest we extend the package system to include the base system; then I can just do env PKG_DBDIR=/var/db/syspkg pkg_deinstall sendmail-6.6.6, and sysinstall can more easily NOT install things I don't want, without impacting users who do want them. Or maybe everyone who doesn't want to use sendmail should switch to NetBSD w/ syspkg :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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