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Date:      Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:43:36 -0800 (PST)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Recent face to face threads talks. 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9912121637510.26823-100000@current1.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <199912130013.QAA04310@mass.cdrom.com>

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On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Mike Smith wrote:

> 
> I think that others are going to cover the technical aspects of this 
> discussion, so I'm going to limit myself to one slightly disappointing 
> observation.
> 
> During the proceedings, it became very clear that only a small number of 
> attendees have taken the time to perform any substantial research on the 
> topic.  None of the ideas being discussed are new; they've all been 
> looked at many, many years ago.  If we're going to maintain our 
> reputation for careful implementation of time-tested ideas and 
> techniques, we need to avail ourselves of the work of others, and that 
> means hunting down and reading the large volume of research output on the 
> topic.

The discussion was not so much a description of all that has been done
in the past but a discussion of some of the ideas that we have already
narrowed down to given that we want to implement it in something vaguely
related to the current system. I think a lot of the discussion was
from the perspective of: "What can we implement in  arealistic time
scale".

> 
> I know that Terry has a reading list, and I'm sure that others do as 
> well.  I think it'd be to our great advantage to have these lists 
> distributed as well as a central repository of papers and references 
> created so that we pull ourselves past the discussing of half-baked ideas 
> and avoid several years worth of wheel reinvention.

We've already published a list of threading related papers on this mailing
list but I am sure we can do it again.

Julian





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