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Date:      Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:25:25 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Alex Belits <abelits@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us>
To:        Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@americantv.com>
Cc:        "Jasper O'Malley" <jooji@webnology.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Producing non-GPLed tools for FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.02A.9810201444230.11171-100000@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us>
In-Reply-To: <19981020162923.17640@right.PCS>

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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Jonathan Lemon wrote:

> > > The hypocrisy comes from misleadingly calling this "free".
> > 
> > I don't think it's misleading at all. The software costs nothing, and the
> > source is available to anyone who wants it. Sounds pretty free to me.
> 
> Hmm.  Please note that this is the _same_ case as with any software
> that you obtain with an NDA:  ``the software costs nothing'', and 
> ``the source is available to anyone who wants it'', with the third
> line being ``as long as you agree to our terms''.
> 
> So you could argue that the GPL is just another form of an NDA.

  I don't want to know, what do you smoke, but please, explain, what kind
of disclosure of the GPL'ed source is prohibited by GPL?

> I wouldn't say that software under an NDA is free, so the same for the GPL.

  GPL is unique in a way that it does not have the name of organizaton
that applied it the anywhere in the terms (FSF has the copyright to the
license text, but license is applied by authors and contributors of the
GPL'ed software) -- once it's applied to software, it requires any kind of
"sub-licensing" of derived work to be under exactly the same terms. It
definitely is a restriction, however unlike any other restriction, placed
by commercial licenses and NDAs it applies equally to everyone when GPL'ed
software is concerned (with an exception that the original author may
license the same original, unchanged software simultaneously under
different license, however even that won't apply to contributions, made by
others to GPL'ed versions).

  I find it disturbing that people don't see freedom unless they can trade
it for something else.

--
Alex


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