Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:32:00 -0800 (PST) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: [semi-OT] Re: portupgrade O(n^m)? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0702151632001.1923@hymn09.u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <op.tns6zxer9aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com>
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:17:00 -0600, <youshi10@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > <snip> >> ===== >> Pros: >> ===== >> -It's written in python (portable). > > Isn't our more portable for hardware than Python? Also, it is smaller? > >> -It's a system which focuses on ports compilation from source, not binary >> package installation. > > This is very cons. The ports can do both, so it is more flexible and is pros > than this. In our ports tree, you can even choice to create your own packages, > install your own packages that was built by you, use FreeBSD packages or > compile by via ports tree. > >> -Stores information in a db format (not Berkeley DB, but something >> different)for entire system in a common file; stores installed leaf package >> information in another simple textfile. >> -Has flags for stability reasons, since some packages are alpha or beta and >> don't compile under certain architectures. > > No thanks, I am against this. I have seen the messy over at Gentoo's forums for > you can't do the mix very well. Our ports have the better stability than their > for in both stable and bleeding edge at the same time. I have used Gentoo > before very long time ago and it is too often to break stuff, I personal prefer > Slackware or Ubuntu over Gentoo and portage anytime for Linux. > >> -Portage files are fetched via rsync. > > What is speical about it if you put rsync as in Cons? Why replace it when CVSup > works fine? > > http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20021223-newsletter.xml#doc_chap2_sect4 Well, it takes a lot of time with the diffs and all in rsync.. that's why I added it to the cons. I have no clue why I accidentally added it to the pros as well. Probably did some copying and pasting from my original letter and forgot to delete that part ><. I just think that it would be nice to get a common solution for all these items. I dislike gentoo after 2 years of use and switched over to FreeBSD because overall the system is much better (in particular more stable). I just want to help make a great system even better--that's all; the only parts of the system I can possibly thinking of improving that also align with my interests are the ports system and sound system (daemonizing it like ALSA, instead of having stuff block /dev/dsp, /dev/mixer, like OSS). -Garrett
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