Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:33:57 +0100 From: Freminlins <freminlins@gmail.com> To: "sammy sumer" <sammy.sumer@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What FreeBSD users really want Message-ID: <eeef1a4c0607220833x62f0ea84u2f19db60420dfc1d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8f0d62060607220403j599c1131xfcfb38e6b18c7c6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f0d62060607220403j599c1131xfcfb38e6b18c7c6c@mail.gmail.com>
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On 22/07/06, sammy sumer <sammy.sumer@gmail.com> wrote: > > To Whom It May Concern: > > 1. Reinvent the installer and interface. > > Fundamental thing like system installer is still phenomenally arcane. > There > is no excuse for FreeBSD developers not to upgrade the system installer > and > why not using disk imaging technology like Norton ghost or Acronis > TrueImageinstead of the traditional installation. One thing I would say is that FreeBSD installs a complete operating system far faster than any other OS out there. This does matter to some people, though not everyone. A few years ago I was new to FreeBSD (and UNIX/Linux in general) and I went through the installation. The only thing that caught me out was adding a user (me) but not putting myself in the wheel group. After the installation completed I removed the monitor and plugged it back into my usual desktop machine. I could SSH in but not su. It really was the only thing that caught me out. 2. Integrate a PHP shell into the core of the system. > > PHP is by far the most popular computing language in the world. Why not > have a shell called PHP shell. So lots of web developers out there can > easily create shell scripts in PHP syntax to automate and run programs on > FreeBSD. > > Who wants to learn bash or sh scripting? They are by far the least popular > and ugly programming language in the world. > > It is astounding that FreeBSD developers have not clued in to the fact > that > millions of backend webmasters could easily migrate and adopt FreeBSD as > their O.S of their choice because of PHP Would that be PHP and all its associated modules from the base install? That's big, and for many people unnecessary. Why would I need it for my (10) mail servers. It wouldn't serve any purpose. Also PHP "syntax" is not consistent. Take a look here: http://tnx.nl/php. sh scripting is a low level "standard" across other Unices. The only thing I wish I had learned so much sooner was "set autolist" in my .cshrc. I didn't know it was there, and I have no idea why it is not in the default dot.cshrc file. No doubt good reasons, but I "got by" for months before I found this out. All that time I was going "bash can do it, why can't csh?" Sammy Sumer > Frem.
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