Date: 04 Jan 2003 17:27:36 -0800 From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen), Mike Jeays <mj001@rogers.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. Message-ID: <qgznqgo06v.nqg@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104145840.02925620@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030104131212.03837e10@localhost> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <200212312041.gBVKfr183480@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104112015.026a5530@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104131212.03837e10@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104145840.02925620@localhost>
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Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> writes: > At 02:27 PM 1/4/2003, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > >But anyone who cares knows where the pill is located and may eat the > >rest of the apple. As true as your agenda crack > > "Crack?" As in "wise-crack", not the kind you're thinking of. > > >is, we should not deny > >that there is a gift being granted; just not as much as we would like or > >as much as they lead people to believe. > > The Trojan Horse looked like a gift too. And if the giftees knew where to find and kill the bad guys, it would have been a great gift -- the children could play in it. > >The publishing of gcc (or gcc itself) has not done that. It's people's > >(I won't say "free") choice to make themselves so dependent. > > In other words, "Slavery is freedom?" This sounds a bit like RMS's > rhetoric. ;-) In other words, yeh, but my words were "so dependent", not "a slave". A person may freely choose to be partially dependent and remain free (eg, to become independent again), while he may not choose to become a slave and remain free (eg, to become a non-slave). > When someone engages in a deceptive trade practice, one should not blame > the consumers but rather the perpetrator. As I indicated, I blame each for different reasons. But I try not to blame someone soley for publishing software with a more restrictive license than I'd prefer, especially if it's for a reason like making money as opposed to something nasty like effectively forcing others to license their work restrictively. > If you talk to people who use > Linux and GPLed software, you'll find that 99% of them have no idea > whatsoever about the agenda they're promoting. I talk to Linux people at a LUG every month; most just don't care, regardless of whether they know about it. And sadly, most DEVELOPERS soon catch on to and agree with the agenda, buying the over- simplification that it's only fair that "if I can't use your source, you can't use mine", as if all chunks of source are of equal value. > At the risk of triggering Godwin's Law, I don't blame the majority of > Germans for WWII or the atrocities thereof. I blame Hitler and his > cronies. The Germans were taken for a ride... into a devastating, > brutal war that severely hurt them. Old Germans haven't found everyone as forgiving as you. But I get your point. It's hard to blame individuals for choosing their own short- term interests, even if it'll cost their group (and others) dearly in the long run. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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