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Date:      Sun, 7 Jul 2002 00:33:37 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Ben Lyon <blyon@blindfaith.org>
To:        "David G . Andersen" <danderse@cs.utah.edu>
Cc:        Ross Wheeler <rossw@albury.net.au>, twig les <twigles@yahoo.com>, Brian Reichert <reichert@numachi.com>, Kim Okasawa <kimokasawa@hotmail.com>, _@r4k.net, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: NTP security - (was Any security issues with root's cron job?)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0207070032210.3106-100000@kilgore.blindfaith.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020705224406.B23004@cs.utah.edu>

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Ship over to truetime.com and have a look-see.  Nice self-contained 1U 
GPS stratum 1 timeservers.  Less than $2000 if I remember correctly..


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Ben Lyon					blyon@blindfaith.org



On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, David G . Andersen wrote:

> Ross Wheeler just mooed:
> > 
> > Whip over to ebay, buy a cheap second-hand GPS and cable, stick it into
> > one of your servers and presto - instant "stratum 1" time reference for
> 
>   One thing to note with this approach is that you have to pick
> your GPS carefully.  Hand-helds often have really terrible time output;
> a friend of mine used his PCMCIA GPS and was getting worse-than-NTP
> time from it.  If you can find it, look for a model that's optimized
> for time synch.  Trimble, UT+, etc.  There's a good list of them in
> the NTP faq at http://www.ntp.org/
> 
> > under a hundred bucks. Under your control (I can't see anyone taking over
> > or DoSing the whole of the GPS network any time soon, do you?)
> 
>   Certainly not to attack one internet site, at least. :)
> 
>   -Dave
> 
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