Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:40:10 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Youtube & Flash Videos broken? Message-ID: <20130407154010.f61034a3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130407074430.1e98811f@scorpio> References: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> <1365285205.709.7.camel@archlinux> <1365285467.709.10.camel@archlinux> <20130407062158.08e1c3fb@scorpio> <1365332719.4069.99.camel@archlinux> <20130407074430.1e98811f@scorpio>
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On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:44:30 -0400, Jerry wrote: > This site: > <http://aattp.org/watch-jon-stewart-annihilate-anti-gun-control-arguments-in-this-amazing-daily-show-clip-video/ > plays fine on Windows using either IE or Firefox. It also works on > Ubuntu. However, it bombs out with FreeBSD and Firefox. I haven't had > an opportunity to try it on a Linux system yet.. Strange. Very strange. What am I doing wrong for all the years? Even though this page is slow as (insert slow stuff) on loading and polluted with ads, it plays totally fine with Opera, installed in summer 2011. This is since almost 3 years ago. > Using Flash is way > harder than it needs to be on FreeBSD. You are right about this. It should be a selectable (switchable) function of the browser. Do you have a proprietary plugin to have text in blue color? One to display PNG images? Another one to render text centered? No? If "Flash" is used instead of HTML, or as an excuse for not being able or willing to use HTML properly, and if lawyers keep fighting their patent war on codecs, then "Flash" is not the problem per se - it's the way it is (ab)used. Imagine you could treat it as a first class browser functionality. Like displaying images or rendering text. You want to use it? It's already part of the browser, properly maintained to work with the browser, indepdent of lower-level system components. You do _not_ want to see any "Flash" stuff? One click to disable it. That would be the ideal solution, as it is possible with _everything else_ except "Flash". > You hear FreeBSD users who claim > that they never use Flash, which in itself is an interesting statement. No, it's not that interesting. For example, I have kept two browsers in the past: Firefox with no "Flash", and Opera with "Flash". So whenever a non-"Flash" experience was desired, I just switched the browser, and no "Flash" has been used. Also, for specific things, using programs to download video and then watch it locally with mplayer (much more comfortable than all those web players) has been possible for many years. > If it doesn't work, then obviously you cannot take advantage of it. I > suspect at least 50% of them are liars. The rest are more than likely > expressing their "sour-grapes" wrath. That's quite possible. > The real goal should be to get it working and working correctly and as > easily as other Operating Systems have. I actually don't know where the problem is: It _is_ working correctly and easily as on other operating systems and even in comparison to "Windows". > The world is not going to adapt > to your specifications, you have to adapt to its or else fall by the > wayside. And those who _always_ go with the flow will never reach the source. ;-) To educated people, "Flash" is just a tool, and they can answer the question what it is good for, and what it is not the tool for, and additionally how to properly use it. Considering that "Flash" has had 4 hits among the top 10 of security threats, like "Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges. Gain access to sensitive data. Highly Critical." and "Gain access to a system and execute arbitrary code with local user privileges. Bypass security systems. Gain access to sensitive data. Extremely Critical.", there might be a reason not to use it - it depends. It _always_ depends. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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