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Date:      Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:29:22 +0000
From:      Chip Wiegand <chip@wiegand.org>
To:        Edwin Groothuis <edwin@mavetju.org>
Cc:        d01f1n@yahoo.com, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: multiple defaultrouter
Message-ID:  <20020304182922.18df46ea.chip@wiegand.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020304171534.H576@k7.mavetju.org>
References:  <20020304001952.PLTC8848.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@there> <005301c1c32f$21a623a0$1e01a8c0@lc.ca.gov> <20020303214112.2e786336.chip@wiegand.org> <20020304171534.H576@k7.mavetju.org>

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On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:15:34 +1100
Edwin Groothuis <edwin@mavetju.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 09:41:12PM +0000, Chip Wiegand wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:46:11 -0800
> > "Drew Tomlinson" <drew@mykitchentable.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mike D" <d01f1n@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <questions@freebsd.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:19 PM
> > > Subject: multiple defaultrouter
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I have a machine that sits in the dmz and needs to be use 2
> > > > firewalls as
> > > > gateways as possible, otherwise one firewall does not not know
> > > > what to do
> > > > with traffic intended for the other one.
> > > >
> > > > Basically, how do i specify 2 "defaultrouter"s for 1 machine?
> > > 
> > > I don't think this is possible.  What exactly are you trying to
> > > do? Can you include a diagram of your setup?
> > > 
> > > Drew
> > 
> > I'd be interested in the answer to this also. I know it's possible
> > on a winNT box - to have two differant gateways. If it's possible on
> > a winblows box, then it must be possible on a FreeBSD box, right?
> > ;-)
> 
> But what does it do then?
> Does it send every other packet to the other gateway or is it saving
> the second one in case the first one dies?

In the case for one particular nt box at work - when connecting to a web
site it tries the two gateways, gets through to the net on the first one
and is happy. When it connects to our cross-country office via our vpn,
it can't get there via the internet gateway, it tries the second gateway
and gets through, it's happy again. (Our vpn is a dedicated dsl line
between Seattle, WA and Dania Beach, FL)

--
Chip


> Honestly, the problem of this guy (two firewalls) is a problem in
> the fact that his firewalls can't resume statefull sessions if one
> dies. Big deal, this has always been a problem. What he should do
> is make a firewall-pair which have one unique IP address (per server)
> and one shared IP address. They have to monitor each other and the
> standby one has to take over the moment the active one isn't working
> anymore. The shared IP address is the one which is his default
> gateway.
> 
> Edwin
> 
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