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Date:      Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:11:56 +0000
From:      Brad Davis <brd@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Julio Merino <jmmv@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" <freebsd-testing@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: kyua and Google Contributor License Agreement
Message-ID:  <20150930211156.GL65719@corpmail.liquidneon.com>
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 01:20:13PM -0700, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The kyua test framework which is used to run all the tests in FreeBSD under
> /usr/tests/ is available on github: https://github.com/jmmv/kyua/
> 
> However, if someone submits a bugfix or enhancement,
> Julio requires that they sign a Google Contributor License Agreement with
> Google.
> 
> I understand that this is necessary, but it is quite unfortunate.
> I know a number of folks at EMC/Isilon who have walked away from
> contributing
> fixes to kyua because of the Google CLA.
> 
> I have signed the Google CLA for kyua through an online submission form in
> September 2014,
> but sometime this year, Google changed their system and lost a bunch of
> previously
> submitted CLA signatures (!!) including mine.  Honestly, I was kind of
> pissed, and wasn't
> motivated to sign the form again.
> 
> This link: https://github.com/jmmv/kyua/wiki/Contributing doesn't seem to
> go anywhere,
> so I can't even figure out the steps to sign the CLA.
> 
> So we are in a state now where good folks who want to contribute
> (EMC/Isilon) lose interest
> because of needing to sign paperwork.  We also have instance where random
> folks
> on the Internet try to contribute fixes, but then the fixes are in limbo,
> because
> the contributors never bother to sign the Google CLA:
> https://github.com/jmmv/kyua/pulls
> 
> De facto, what has resulted is that Julio is the sole person who can work
> on kyua and enhance or fix it.
> 
> This is really sad, and a major buzzkill for an open source project.  kyua
> is good stuff too, and very helpful for FreeBSD, which makes it even sadder.
> 
> Is there anything we can do to get out of this dead-end?
> 
>   -> get Google to remove the need for people to sign the Google CLA?
>   -> fork the kyua code, and relicense it so it doesn't need the Google CLA?
>   -> other?
> 
> Julio has done great work, but it is never good to have a single point of
> failure for
> something as important as this.

I am in the same boat, and would love to see if we could just fork it and
work from there.  Could Julio then contribute to the code?


Regards,
Brad Davis



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