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Date:      Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:15:43 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Steve Wills <swills@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap
Message-ID:  <20120824081543.GB2998@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org>
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On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 06:19:57PM -0400, Steve Wills wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin=
/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing th=
at running the command gets different results the second time it is run vs.=
 the first time. I can imagine a user saying "I ran pkg, but it didn't do w=
hat they said it would.  Now I run it again, and it does do what it is supp=
osed to." Also, it would enable setting up a pkg-bootstrap man page separat=
e from the pkg man page, without confusion about which one you're looking a=
t.
>=20
> So, opinions? There may still be time to fix it for 9.1 if we can decide =
quickly.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Steve
>=20

BTW for people who haven't tested and want to share their opinion, here is =
how
work /usr/sbin/pkg:

it first checks if ${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg is there
 - if yes it directly execute ${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg with arguments passed t=
o /usr/sbin/pkg
 - if no then it will determine you ABI (or take the one in environnement
   variable), and fetch the last available pkgng version from http://pkgbet=
a...
   it will extract pkg-static and use it to install pkgng with itself.
   on installation is done:  it executes ${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg with argumen=
ts
   passed to /usr/sbin/pkg.

Lots of people having ask in the early days of pkgng for a transparent boot=
strap
I have done it that way.

On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has added is a prompt for the user in cas=
e it
is going to bootstrap.

So that mean that for a normal user, on a fresh vanilla FreeBSD
"pkg install vim-lite" will prompt the user asking if he wants to bootstrap
pkgng, and once bootstraped proceed to the installation of vim-lite

if pkgng is already there then it will just install vim-lite.

It was just to clarify, so that anyone understand was this is about.

I tend to like the bootstrap like it is now (I find it transparent, and str=
aight
forward) but as I said earlier I have no strong opinion on this, so it most
people prefers a separate pkg-bootstrap tools then I'll do it :)

regards,
Bapt

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