Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:12:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Passive PROFITS <passiveprofits@yahoo.com> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question - about newbie user support Message-ID: <184397.10538.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <952143.25012.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> most kind regards > > jonathan > > > ps, small niggle well based on observation, you have > a real name it is > agood idea to useit .. read the mailinglists > charters, maillname/userid > is one thing but a personal identifier that is close > to a (your) real > name. Hi Jonathan, Sorry I didn't respond to your above earlier. I only just caught it lurking at the bottom of an off-list email someone else on the list sent me ... Good job too, as I would have hated it to pass, and you just think I was being plain rude. To your points: >From this page, I see that a 'your name' is "(optional)": http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat Nothing contra-indicates the above, here: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Or at least nothing I can find!! What am I missing? I can find no clear link to any 'charter' from the freebsd website, so am assuming you are referring to the above page(s)? Don't forget I've spent like, 20 seconds on the site, in my life (discounting download times). I appreciate many prefer my 'real name'. I can give you one (that I'll have to make up) if it's absolutely necessary. I am a barrister by background, having one time (for quite a time) had an extensive criminal law practise/practice (depending on which side of the pond you're reading this). I never really give my real name out, anywhere, unless it would be a breach of the law (with damages payable that I couldn't easily afford, to which I might add that I'm always skint! <g>). It's nothing personal to you or to anyone else on this or any other list; I simply don't want to be found by rather a large number of people (my ex-clients, as I used to defend when undertaking criminal law, primarily) - ever. If posting your real name might bring upwards of 300 angry convicted criminals to your door, would you? And that's forgetting, for a time, the other 400 odd clients, in various legal shenanegins, many of whom may not be happy with what happened to them. I hope this clarifies, even if not making people 'happy'. Obviously should either a charter, or the general list membership want my real name or ask me to leave in default, that's no problem, I'll leave, but I hope not. What brought me to BSD, was the realisation lawyers worldwide should be using Linux/BSD, not Windows ... I finished writing a book on digital signatures and encryption, on/in Windows, to get to the end of it only realising none of the users of the e-book really had the advice they needed - GET OFF WINDOWS! <g> With a bit of help from the FreeBSD community over the next 12 or more months, hopefully there will be at least one lawyer I know (me!) using FreeBSD, so he can tell the others about it, even if only one at a time (i.e. not through publication(s))! ;) Anyway - obviously I'll have to leave, if that's what people really want, just because I'm being honest that there's no way your getting my real name! Please advise, I really don't want to upset anyone here. Increasingly, I understand why people just use a pen name on the Internet; saves bandwidth, if nothing else, having these discussions - perhaps I should recommend it, alone, for that fact, never mind the harrasment possibilities and opportunities that abound once someone has your 'real' name, and a fixed IP for you. I am at least trying to be honest in not using a 'false', 'real' name - e.g. 'John Smith'. If you will let me. I use a nym that is Linux related for my LUG, it just happens I was in one of those 'F-I; just sign up, right now, without thinking about it' moments that I happen to have subbed using this addy, as, as I've previously stated, I've been up to the site before, only to have come away empty handed. I will of course, I reiterate, as it seems like it might be in some doubt, leave without further complaint, if thought necessary for everyone elses sanity - strange place honesty takes you. As an aside that I am sure will not be missed by the vast majority of the list: only the persistence of a digital identity (PKI) is of any use in terms of ID, and only then, without a web of trust, over time, as proving it is the 'same' person (who ever that might be!), anyway!! I'll sign, if that is a happy mid-way, though it will of course stop me being able to participate whilst out and about/without private key!? Anyway - let me know. I am specifically interested in the legal basis, of where and exactly what states you have to put your real name on a list to get access to FreeBSD, or it's resources, especially philosophically. I thought FreeBSD meant like, free of cost, free of (none BSD) licence restrictions, and no where have I ever read anything about having to give your real name in order to participate in any of it, but as you all know, I haven't even read the handbook yet, hey, so I've probably only got myself to blame! LMAO I am not being cantankerous, well, ok, perhaps emotionally I'm trying not to be ... But to explain with the legal background, and wanting in the future to write a little about BSD possibly - if there is something that says names, and real names are required; I'd like to point it out to the lawyers (and likely tell them not to use it, as I've not yet come across anything like this with Ubuntu (or Knoppix before it)). Best to all, PP ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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