Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:53:04 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org> To: Vsevolod Stakhov <vsevolod@FreeBSD.org> Cc: svn-ports-head <svn-ports-head@freebsd.org>, "Timur I. Bakeyev" <timur@FreeBSD.org>, Steve Wills <swills@freebsd.org>, svn-ports-all <svn-ports-all@freebsd.org>, marino@freebsd.org, "ports-committers@freebsd.org" <ports-committers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r361646 - in head/net/samba36: . files Message-ID: <20140716115304.GA5861@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <53C6638E.6000801@FreeBSD.org> References: <53C322A7.2090705@marino.st> <20140714003112.GA54756@mouf.net> <CALdFvJEvf4-RSJNUVxX08T8K-tq9PoKge-XxmhDafAn_QxjEcg@mail.gmail.com> <53C451FA.2020304@marino.st> <20140715170501.GA73101@FreeBSD.org> <53C5618F.2020104@FreeBSD.org> <20140716094453.GA53961@FreeBSD.org> <53C65677.8060603@FreeBSD.org> <20140716111328.GB82901@FreeBSD.org> <53C6638E.6000801@FreeBSD.org>
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:35:42PM +0100, Vsevolod Stakhov wrote: > On 16/07/14 12:13, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > I don't see why it cannot work the old way, just as described in PHB > > section 5.2.2.1. That is, bump port revision when something is wrong > > with previous package. Fixed typos or added license do not render > > previous packages wrong. Ditto for staging, maintainership changes > > or other things that are not user-noticeable. > > OMFG, it cannot work in the old way because we *do have* pkg and many > users use pkg for their tasks. And you suggest to remove pkg support > just because you don't want to rebuild the ports? That's awesome... I never said anything about removing pkg support. My only concern here is this new proposed policy on when to bump those portrevs. > From the side of pkg we could just use portversion for everything but > this assumes that *all* maintainers know how to bump portrevision. And Lack of education and discipline is our long-standing problem that very little of us seem to care about. We do not encourage good work. But more importantly, we do not discourage sloppy work. Critics are told to STFU and stop tainting the "healthy project atmosphere" (sic). > that was lie over all the history of the ports. Indeed, if we define > something like 'bump revision if something is wrong with a port' then we > are in trouble, as different maintainers have different viewpoints about > what is wrong and what is not. Hence, if you have more constructive > suggestions than to throw out pkg I would appreciate to hear them. Can you elaborate more on why we are in trouble if I don't bump revisions on typo fixes, mastersite updates or adding of LICENSE knob? What is the breakage scenario here (for pkg users)? ./danfe
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