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Date:      Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:24:02 -0500 (EST)
From:      doug@safeport.com
To:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: xorg-7.4_2 error (was xorg 7.4 questions)
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.0912302108341.13735@fledge.watson.org>
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Warren Block wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote:
>
>>> After updating ports, 'portsdb -Fu' and 'portversion -vL=' will show 
>>> what's outdated.  (That's with portupgrade installed.  Some would have you 
>>> believe it's second in evil only to HAL.  Maybe true, but it works.)
>>> 
>>> And then 'portupgrade -r portname' (or 'portupgrade -ar', if you like) 
>>> should upgrade the outdated stuff and everything that depends on it. And 
>>> -P or -PP might help by retrieving packages, although I haven't tried that 
>>> in years.
>> 
>> This includes libc? man 2 libc
>
> Doh, I was thinking of ports, not system.  Some ports have code to check for 
> system version requirements, and I'd expect packages to do the same thing. 
> But they're moving targets, and developers and porters can't check all the 
> combinations.

First building the system does indeed solve all xorg package problems. Second I 
am not sure I agree with your statement. I think the answer is relatively easy:
(1) build packages against the base release, or, (2) document the problem, or 
lastly (3) have the port management tools check for this.

While I am not sure if (3) is possible, I am pretty sure (2) is.

Anyway X and its successor Xorg is at once the great leveler and I have learned 
more about FreeBSD getting my Desktops going than any other single activity. I 
appreciate all the time you spent leading me to the solution. Bouncing thoughts 
and ideas with you was most helpful.

I wanted to post my original comment and this to make explicit that a version 7
package will not necessarily work on a 7.2 system. I certainly do not have the 
knowledge to know what system libraries a port is built on. This was actually 
quite easy to find because of the error. If there is no error you are left doing 
a ktrace or something. By the way have gotten the error and figuring out that 
libc was involved, I did not understand the implication, I had help there.




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