Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:32:45 -0600 From: "Andrew Falanga" <af300wsm@gmail.com> To: "Ian Smith" <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fresh install won't compile requirement libraries for cvsup Message-ID: <340a29540706130632m289285dfi595442a6269e1645@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1070613160218.20089B-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20070612171902.ABA9616A4A5@hub.freebsd.org> <Pine.BSF.3.96.1070613160218.20089B-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au>
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On 6/13/07, Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:02:38 -0600 Andrew Falanga <af300wsm@gmail.com> wrote: > > > a hard hang. Nothing worked. I could not even Alt+<num> to a > > different pseudo terminal. The system just hard hanged. I rebooted > > and tried the install again with the same result. > > At the same place? If so, I'd tend to suspect memory rather than cpu. No it did not stop at the same place. I still suspect memory versus the cpu, especially considering that, apparently, there were several generations of the K6. I didn't know this. For several years, I did not have the time or money to play with hardware and therefore lost touch with much of the hardware that was out there. > > > I'm wondering if it could be hardware, specifically memory. I've > > never seen a FreeBSD, OpenBSD or Linux (for that matter) hard hang on > > program compilation apart from hardware problems. Also of particular > [..] > > System configuration is as follows: > > > > AMD K6 700mHz > > 256mb RAM (PC 133) > > 13gb HDD > > 700MHz? Please show us the line from your /var/run/dmesg.boot showing > the exact cpu and clock. This will also indicate features & stepping > that should pinpoint the cpu model. From one 4.10 system hereabouts: > > CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (400.91-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 > Features=0x8021bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,PGE,MMX> > AMD Features=0x80000800<SYSCALL,3DNow!> > real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) > > That's a K6-2, though it doesn't say so there. From memory, the fastest > ever K6-2 was ~550MHz, but people did tend to wildly overclock them .. I will provide this info., hopefully tonight when I get home. I'm pretty sure this was never over clocked. It was the secretaries computer of the church I attend. I'm working on remaking the system into a web server as the secretary was just given a laptop. > > As others have mentioned, K6s don't like running too hot. I nurse two, > the 400 and a 450MHz box that run forever as long as the cpu fan is ok. > And when they do overheat, they'll freeze, but I've never actually seen > one damaged (as opposed to a couple of fried P3s of similar vintage) > > If you really are running it at 700MHz (at what bus speed setting?) then > I'd treat it to a new heat sink with fresh thermal paste and a BIG fan. Ok, sounds good. I'll see what I can find for this CPU. > > And sure it's best to run matched-speed memory. Your BIOS probably lets > you play with wait states and such, but the basic PCI bus speed might be > something weird if you've managed to crank the cpu up to 700MHz .. > How do wait states relate to memory speed? Please enlighten me. I have an idea, but I'm only theorizing, I'd like to know what it really means. If it's more in depth than one would like to type in a response, sending a link is fine. I learned quite a bit on the "Sig 11" links given earlier. Thanks, Andy
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