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Date:      Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:17:12 -0800
From:      David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Bad disk partitioning policies (was: "Re: FreeBSD Intaller (was "Re: ... RedHat ...")")
Message-ID:  <20020127191712.A825@HAL9000.wox.org>
In-Reply-To: <3C54A24B.B0B607F@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 04:58:51PM -0800
References:  <15441.17382.77737.291074@guru.mired.org> <p05101245b8771d04e19b@[10.0.1.3]> <20020125212742.C75216@over-yonder.net> <p05101203b8788a930767@[10.0.1.14]> <gc1ygc7sfi.ygc@localhost.localdomain> <3C534C4A.35673769@mindspring.com> <0s3d0s5dos.d0s@localhost.localdomain> <3C53ED01.61407A02@mindspring.com> <ffbsffnwfp.sff@localhost.localdomain> <3C54A24B.B0B607F@mindspring.com>

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Thus spake Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>:
> "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote:
> > So it should say that performance degrades increasingly from negligible
> > at 85% of the full FS to about 3 times slower near 100% full (plus
> > increased permanent fragmentation of files).  And that this is a result
> > of the algorithms used and is independent of FS size.  And this needs
> > complication to mention the effects of the 5% switch and -o option.
> 
> Sure.  Let's see if other people agree with that; it's a bit
> simplistic, in that you don't know whether the degradation
> is linear or exponential (exponential), and even saying that
> raises more questions from people who want to have knowledge
> given to them, instead of having to learn it (such people
> should have slots installed into their skulls before they
> come bother us, wince without a means of "giving" it to them
> like slotting a skills card into their brain, they are
> wasting their time.  8-)).

I didn't used to understand that comment in tunefs(8) until you
mentioned the word `hash'.  (Actually, it coincided nicely to my
reaching the FFS chapter in the 4.4 BSD book.)  All that's needed is a
one- or two-sentence comment in the manpage explaining the cause and
nature of the limitation.

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