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Date:      Sun, 20 May 2007 19:08:37 -0400
From:      Garance A Drosehn <gad@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Scott Long <scottl@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Colin Percival <cperciva@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools Makefile
Message-ID:  <p06240805c27683e3c36d@[128.113.24.47]>
In-Reply-To: <20070520062748.GA54935@rambler-co.ru>
References:  <200705190756.l4J7u9wP058382@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070519085103.GA61276@rambler-co.ru> <20070519105804.6b6cae10@kan.dnsalias.net> <20070520062748.GA54935@rambler-co.ru>

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At 10:27 AM +0400 5/20/07, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
>
>It sometimes happens when the date/time are not being set
>properly, so that the tools are mistakenly rebuilt again
>at an inappropriate time when in the foreign environment
>of the target -- the problem is usually understood better
>when building for another CPU architecture and hitting it.
>I think this was an inappropriate commit to make, unless
>the problem can be reproduced.  I have upgraded several
>i386's and amd64's without a problem.

Is there any way we could detect the clock-skew problem?  This keeps
coming up, year-after-year, for many different people, including
very experienced developers.  And when it does come up, it is
either:  (1) totally safe, and thus unnoticed, or (2) screws up
someone in the middle of some major upgrade, thus causing great
angst and gnashing of teeth.

It would be nice if we could come up with a reliable check for the
problem.

-- 
Garance Alistair Drosehn     =               drosehn@rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer               or   gad@FreeBSD.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;             Troy, NY;  USA



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