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Date:      Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:05:11 -0600
From:      "Justin L. Boss" <jlboss@yahoo.com>
To:        Benjamin Krueger <benjamin@macguire.net>, "Brian T . Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: NVIDIA  3D FreeBSD Drivers
Message-ID:  <20020303154106.0165637B402@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020303011935.S12253@rain.macguire.net>
References:  <20020303024505.6646337B400@hub.freebsd.org> <20020303082134.91EF2BA03@i8k.babbleon.org> <20020303011935.S12253@rain.macguire.net>

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You are all missing the point. This is for 3d hardware support first of all.  
I'm using a G-Force2 now and it work just fine for me too, with out 3d 
support. It is also about letting people know how many people use FreeBSD, 
its about letting hareware and software vendors know that they need to be 
writing drivers, application and games for FreeBSD because so many people use 
it. I don't like linux and I do not like comparing FreeBSD and linux because 
FreeBSD towering over linux in every way. But one thing I will say is that 
linux users are willing to fight for linux . That may be one of the resons 
why linux is more popular then FreeBSD. It sure isn't because linux is 
better. Someone will say "theirs no games for FreeBSD that use 3d 
acceleration yet" and I say "their won't be until it can support it". You 
can't put the horse before the buggy. No one can say for sure that FreeBSD 
will be around forever.  I sure the FreeBSD team would say if it wasn't for 
our contbution when we get the four set cd-rom for $29-$39. If we didn't 
donate our money they would have to close down. I can't be sure but it takes 
money to make the world go round ask Enron. And the more vendors that support 
FreeBSD, the more people will use FreeBSD, the more money will come in and 
the faster freeBSD will grow and the more we will benefit. I just woke up so 
if this is screw up sorry but you get the just.

On Sunday 03 March 2002 03:19 am, Benjamin Krueger wrote:
> * Brian T . Schellenberger (bts@babbleon.org) [020303 00:26]:
> > On Saturday 02 March 2002 10:09 am, Justin L. Boss wrote:
> > > I know not everone uses FreeBSD for a desktop but if you like FreeBSD
> > > and are interested in seeing it become one of the most successfully OS
> > > ever and you think you will ever use it as a desktop and like to have
> > > 3d support then take a minute and go to
> > > http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/petition.html and fill out the petition.
> > > It is your OS, fight for it.
> >
> > Why not just avoid nvidia entirely?  Or fight for public release of the
> > specs instead of trying to get FreeBSD added to the list of "blessed"
> > OS's like Linux and Windows.
> >
> > Avoid proprietary solutions and venders of hardware that are unwilling to
> > work  with open-source code.
>
> Unwilling, or unable? As I've heard, they will not release specs because
> they cannot release specs as per licensing contracts for their technology.
> This hardly seems like a damnable offense to me, especially considering it
> helps them build excellent hardware.
>
> As for the matter of not having support for NVidia cards under FreeBSD...
>
> [snip]
> Section "Module"
>         Load  "extmod"
> 				Load  "xie"
> 				Load  "pex5"
> 				Load  "glx"
> 				Load  "dri"
> 				Load  "dbe"
> 				Load  "record"
> 				Load  "freetype"
> EndSection
> [snip]
> Section "Device"
>         Identifier  "Card0"
>         Driver      "nv"
>         VendorName  "NVidia"
>         BoardName   "GeForce2 MX"
>         BusID       "PCI:1:5:0"
> EndSection
> [snip]
>
> My NVidia card works fine under FreeBSD for me.

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