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Date:      Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:57:59 -0800
From:      Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To:        Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
Cc:        freebsd gnome <freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: upgrade loses sawfish config tools
Message-ID:  <E18jjA0-000DIa-00@rip.psg.com>
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> Probably because you're no longer running sawfish.  The new GNOME
> 2.2 window manager is metacity.  See the GNOME 2 FAQ for more
> info: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html

bingo!  but ...

    8.  What window managers work well with GNOME 2.2?

    The gnome2 meta-port installs the metacity window manager by
    default. Another popular window manager that works well with
    GNOME 2.2 is sawfish. Sawfish is distributed as part of the
    x11/gnome2-fifth-toe meta-port.

    To switch between metacity and sawfish in GNOME 2, you will
    need to do the following:

    killall metacity; sawfish &
    gnome-session-save --gui

    The gnome-session-save is important. Without it, the window
    manager will revert back to the one previously configured upon
    next login. To switch back, simply reverse sawfish and
    metacity.

but when i

    gnome-session-save

i get this nasty message

    Could not connect to the session manager

likely because i am not running gdm or anything like that.  i'm an
xinit kinda guy, as i occasionally run from command line.  now,
xinit did start a gnome-session, and it is happily running

so how do i save the current session's configs in my current
circumstances?

randy


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