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Date:      Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:44:14 -0500
From:      Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com>
Cc:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bernhard_Fr=F6hlich?= <decke@bluelife.at>, Big Lebowski <spankthespam@gmail.com>, ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?
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On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com> wrote:

> On 01/25/2014 05:43, Bernhard Fr=F6hlich wrote:
>
>> With the scripts it should be possible to fetch the patch of a PR, apply
>> and commit it to your redports repository and do additional changes unti=
l
>> you are okay with it. What is still missing is a script that helps
>> committing the changes to the FreeBSD tree but it's really not that
>> complicated to write that.
>>
>
> This sounds like a very manual process again. Today it is already manual.
> This only automates the patching step.
>
>
>  be more specific and name the problem, if you mentioned it?
>>
>> The raised concerns were that automatic build testing might result in le=
ss
>> testing on committer side. I agree that this might happen and automatic
>> build testing is only one part of what committers need to do. A huge
>> backlog and no response for months is definitely nothing we want.
>>
>
> But what exactly do committers test that can't be automated? Automatic
> system could install the port with dependencies into the blank
> installation, check syntax correctness, run 'lint' on it, verify that it
> installs/uninstalls cleanly and doesn't leave residue, etc etc. What is
> beyond that?
> I am trying to understand, what would the general ports expert without th=
e
> intimate knowledge of this particular package catch, that automated syste=
m
> won't be able to catch?
>

The key seems to be that no one has time to do the stuff they really want
to do (get new ports into the system)... to that end automating everything
that can be automated is sure help free up comitter time so they can look
at what is interesting


>
> Yuri
>



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Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org



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