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Date:      Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:17:40 -0500
From:      Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>
To:        FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Mailling list and Slieve filter
Message-ID:  <20120114101740.43a449b2@scorpio>
In-Reply-To: <20120114130851.0d8802ce@gumby.homeunix.com>
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:08:51 +0000
RW articulated:

> On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:44:04 +1000
> Da Rock wrote:
> 
> > On 01/14/12 19:02, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > > On 14/01/2012 05:25, Tobi wrote:
> > >> Thanks!!!
> > >> It works fine with this:
> > >>
> > >> if header :contains ["List-ID"] "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" {
> > >>      fileinto "INBOX.Mailinglisten.FreeBSD.freebsd-questions";
> > >>      stop;
> > >> }
> > > You'll find that whenever someone replies to one of your messages
> > > on the list you'll often tend to get the response directly rather
> > > than via the mailing list, so it won't be filed by this rule.
> > Actually, my experience shows that it will still *usually* result in
> > a success- the various headers generally remain intact with replies,
> > but it is one of the other header fields that changes. The above
> > will work 98% of the time.
> 
> The problem occurs when you don't get the in-list copy, either because
> the list doesn't send copies to addresses in Cc/To, or because some
> mail systems (gmail) treat the delayed in-list copy as a duplicate. In
> this case you can't use list-id reliably.
> 
> I think it's unusual for lists to suppress in-list copies, except as
> an option, so this is mostly a gmail problem. I had to rewrite my
> sieve rules when I switched to  gmail, before that list-id worked just
> fine.

I have yet to experience a problem using the List-ID with sieve whether
the document was relayed via Google (GMail) or otherwise. Yes, you
don't get a copy of the message that you sent to the list, but that is
because Google (GMail) sucks. I have never experienced any other
failure problem using List-ID. Now, if you are specifically attempting
to receive mail from a list that has been specifically CC'd or BCC'd to
you, than that is another matter entirely. It just requires you to more
carefully construct your sieve rules.

I use a slightly differently constructed rule then the one shown above
although functionally equivalent:

if anyof (header :contains "List-Id" "freebsd-questions.freebsd.org") {fileinto "FreeBSD"; stop;}

I have a rule prior to this one that basically files any document CC'd
to me into a special folder which, if I ever get ambitious, I
occasionally peruse.

-- 
Jerry ♔

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