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Date:      Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:55:00 +0000
From:      RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Mailling list and Slieve filter
Message-ID:  <20120114155500.4827bf1c@gumby.homeunix.com>
In-Reply-To: <20120114101740.43a449b2@scorpio>
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:17:40 -0500
Jerry wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:08:51 +0000
> RW articulated:

> > The problem occurs when you don't get the in-list copy, either
> > because the list doesn't send copies to addresses in Cc/To, or
> > because some mail systems (gmail) treat the delayed in-list copy as
> > a duplicate. In this case you can't use list-id reliably.
> > 
> > I think it's unusual for lists to suppress in-list copies, except as
> > an option, so this is mostly a gmail problem. I had to rewrite my
> > sieve rules when I switched to  gmail, before that list-id worked
> > just fine.
> 
> I have yet to experience a problem using the List-ID with sieve
> whether the document was relayed via Google (GMail) or otherwise.
> Yes, you don't get a copy of the message that you sent to the list,
> but that is because Google (GMail) sucks. I have never experienced
> any other failure problem using List-ID. Now, if you are specifically
> attempting to receive mail from a list that has been specifically
> CC'd or BCC'd to you, than that is another matter entirely.

The problem is that when someone uses "reply to all" gmail only gives
me the first copy it receives, and that's invariably the direct reply
which lacks a list-id header. 



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