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Date:      Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:07:52 -0700
From:      Jeremy Chadwick <jdc@koitsu.org>
To:        Michiel Boland <boland37@xs4all.nl>
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: system sporadically hangs on shutdown after switching to WITH_NEW_XORG
Message-ID:  <20130616160752.GA26518@icarus.home.lan>
In-Reply-To: <51BDE16D.3080903@xs4all.nl>
References:  <51BDD593.5000102@xs4all.nl> <20130616153710.GT91021@kib.kiev.ua> <51BDDE64.2040801@xs4all.nl> <20130616155502.GA26171@icarus.home.lan> <51BDE16D.3080903@xs4all.nl>

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On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 06:01:49PM +0200, Michiel Boland wrote:
> On 06/16/2013 17:55, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> [...]
> 
> >Are you running moused(8)?  Actually, I can see quite clearly that you
> >are in your core.txt:
> >
> >Starting ums0 moused.
> >
> >Try turning that off.  Don't ask me how, because devd(8) / devd.conf(5)
> >might be involved.
> >
> 
> The moused is started by devd - I don't see a quick way of turning that off.

Comment out the relevant crap in devd.conf(5).  Search for "ums"
and comment out the two "notify" sections.

> As a workaround I'm trying to run a kernel with
> 
>  options SC_NO_SYSMOUSE
> 
> to see if the hangs go away.

That's one way to do it, I guess.

Be aware that I do not use X, however I have repeatedly seen mentioned
on these lists problems/complexities from where people rely on moused(8)
to "drive their mouse" while inside of X (or possibly that X and
moused(8) are both simultaneously polling the mouse).  There's
apparently a very specific kind of X configuration you're supposed to
use to get proper mouse/keyboard/HAL/HID/whatever support, and tons of
people have it wrongt.  Warren Block I think has some insights into
this, or could maybe help shed some light on what I'm remembering.

-- 
| Jeremy Chadwick                                   jdc@koitsu.org |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                http://jdc.koitsu.org/ |
| Making life hard for others since 1977.             PGP 4BD6C0CB |




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