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Date:      Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:45:06 -0600 (CST)
From:      Ryan Thompson <ryan@sasknow.com>
To:        Simon <simon@optinet.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: proftpd passive weirdness through firewall
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011240041090.43227-100000@ren.sasknow.com>
In-Reply-To: <20001124052030.8DFAC37B479@hub.freebsd.org>

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Simon wrote to freebsd-isp@freebsd.org and Ryan Thompson:

> That's a problem with proftpd. You should upgrade to latest release.
> 
> -Simon

Hmm...

Waiting for a good time of night, I upgraded proftp from 1.2.0pre2 to
1.2.0rc2 (from ports), and I see the same results.  I wasn't able to dig
up any better information from proftpd's website, and 1.2.0rc2 does indeed
look to be the most recent version.

(yes, I remembered to kill and restart the daemon :-)

When I log in, the version is reported as 1.2.0 (as opposed to the
previous 1.2.0pre2), and the timestamps on the executables are all
brand new.

Any thoughts?


> On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:19:04 -0600 (CST), Ryan Thompson wrote:
> 
> >
> >Hi all...
> >
> >As many admins are aware, configuring an FTP server through a firewall can
> >be a major pain.  It is a pain I thought I had mastered, though :-)  My
> >firewall setup such that I have everything inbound blocked but basic
> >connectivity, and the protocols I wish to enable, including FTP.  
> >Outgoing connections are allowed to any network on (almost) any port, as
> >this is not a user machine.
> >
> >Now, a few customers have been complaining that passive mode transfers
> >(and directory listings) do not work, which has enticed me to look into
> >the problem a bit further.  We moved to proftpd from wuftpd a while back,
> >and the problem seemed to start around that time.
> >
> >It appears as though, when initiating a transfer, very low port numbers
> >are chosen:
> >
> >Script started on Thu Nov 23 22:55:46 2000
> >Connected to ftp.sasknow.com.
> >220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre10 Server (SaskNow Technologies FTP Server) [ftp.sasknow.com]
> >Name (ftp.sasknow.com:ryan): ryan
> >331 Password required for ryan.
> >Password:
> >230 User ryan logged in.
> >Remote system type is UNIX.
> >Using binary mode to transfer files.
> >ftp> ls
> >500 EPSV not understood.
> >227 Entering Passive Mode (207,195,92,131,15,135).
> >^C
> >receive aborted. Waiting for remote to finish abort.
> >ftp> passive
> >Passive mode: off; fallback to active mode: off.
> >ftp> ls
> >200 PORT command successful.
> >150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.
> >
> >< normal ls output >
> >
> >226 Transfer complete.
> >ftp> quit
> >221 Goodbye.
> >
> >Script done on Thu Nov 23 22:56:15 2000
> >
> >
> >The following is a few snippets of my firewall configuration (not the
> >whole thing, obviously):
> >
> >
> ># Basic connectivity rules ====================================================
> >
> ># Allow established connections
> >$fwcmd add 600 pass tcp from any to any established
> >
> ># Allow outgoing connections originating from our subnet only
> >$fwcmd add 700 pass tcp from ${sasknow} to any setup
> >
> ># Explicitly block ICMP redirects
> ># $fwcmd add 1000 deny icmp from any to any icmptype 5
> >
> ># Allow all other ICMP
> >$fwcmd add 1100 pass icmp from any to any
> >
> ># Open default traceroute port on udp only.
> ># The default port range starts at 33434
> >$fwcmd add 1200 pass udp from any to any 33434-33500
> >
> ># Individual protocol access ==================================================
> >
> ># Completely open up standard FTP
> >$fwcmd add 9900 pass tcp from any 20 to any
> >$fwcmd add 9901 pass udp from any 20 to any
> >$fwcmd add 9950 pass tcp from any to ${ftp} 21 setup
> >
> >
> ># More inbound protocols allowed....
> >
> >
> ># Everything else is denied by default!
> >
> >So, anything with a source port of 20 is let through, and control
> >connections can be established on port 21.  Standard FTP, therefore, works
> >fine.  Many clients nowadays have passive mode on by default, though (or
> >are behind firewalls themselves), and it's passive mode that causes grief!  
> >Since all outbound connections are explicitly allowed by rule 0700, why
> >isn't passive mode functional?  From my testing, this problem spans more
> >than a dozen different clients on several different networks (many of
> >which are not restricted by a firewall themselves).  Disabling the
> >firewall rules, here, of course allows passive mode to work perfectly from
> >anywhere.
> >
> >I've tried playing with the "passive ports" directive in
> >/usr/local/etc/ftpaccess, and explicitly opening up those ports for
> >inbound access, but to no avail.  It seems a little strange to have to do
> >this, anyway.
> >
> >Thanks for any suggestions!
> >
> >- Ryan
> >
> >-- 
> >  Ryan Thompson <ryan@sasknow.com>
> >  Network Administrator, Accounts
> >  Phone: +1 (306) 664-1161
> >
> >  SaskNow Technologies     http://www.sasknow.com
> >  #106-380 3120 8th St E   Saskatoon, SK  S7H 0W2
> >
> >
> >
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  Ryan Thompson <ryan@sasknow.com>
  Network Administrator, Accounts
  Phone: +1 (306) 664-1161

  SaskNow Technologies     http://www.sasknow.com
  #106-380 3120 8th St E   Saskatoon, SK  S7H 0W2



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