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Date:      Wed, 6 Nov 2013 15:22:03 +0200
From:      George Kontostanos <gkontos.mail@gmail.com>
To:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D6zkan_KIRIK?= <ozkan.kirik@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@freebsd.org>, Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 10 Beta2 /etc/rc.d/named script and /etc/defaults/rc.conf
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 12:11:02PM +0100, Erwin Lansing wrote:
> E> > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 01:41:01AM +0200, George Kontostanos wrote:
> E> > G> > Am 03.11.2013 um 23:06 schrieb Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.o=
rg
> >:
> E> > G> >
> E> > G> > > On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 10:05:02PM +0200, =D6zkan KIRIK wrote=
:
> E> > G> > > =D6> Altough bind removed from FreeBSD 10 distribution,
> "/etc/rc.d/named"
> E> > G> > script
> E> > G> > > =D6> still exists.
> E> > G> > > =D6> and this script depends on "/etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist"
> file but
> E> > G> > there is
> E> > G> > > =D6> no such file in source tree.
> E> > G> > > =D6> I think this file was forgotten to be removed.
> E> > G> > > =D6>
> E> > G> > > =D6> And also, named_* definitions still exists in
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf
> E> > G> > file.
> E> > G> > >
> E> > G> > > Please review attached file that removes named from /etc.
> E> > G> >
> E> > G> > It would be great if the port would learn to install its own
> script etc.
> E> > G> > in time for that change. (Unless it=92s already there, and I=92=
m
> just too blind
> E> > G> > to see it.)
> E> > G>
> E> > G> No you are not blind. Installing bind from ports still relies on
> the
> E> > G> /etc/rc.d/named script.
> E> >
> E> > Erwin, can you please handle that?
> E>
> E> Things are much worse that this, the ports are completely written unde=
r
> the assumption that there is a Bind in base, which of course would alread=
y
> break with WITHOUT_BIND before Bind was completely removed.  It will be
> hard to fix without breaking the installed base of 8 and 9.  Sigh.
> E>
> E> I'll try to work on it this week, but unfortunately have a full
> schedule of meetings and travel as well.
>

Suggestion. An option to install the rc script would solve that problem.


>
> What should we do with src?
>
> IMO, we should proceed with removal of remnants of bind in src. In the
> worst case,
> if you can't handle it this week, the situation will be the following:
>
> 1) 8.x, 9.x users are okay
> 2) 10+.x users w/o bind are okay
> 3) 10+.x users with bind have problems
>
> If we skip updating src, then situation would be:
>
> 1) 8.x, 9.x users are okay
> 2) 10+.x users w/o bind have problems
> 3) 10+.x users with bind are okay
>
> I think, there are less 10.x users with bind, than 10.x without it.
>
>
Please warn about this in UPDATING. I am personally use 12 FreeBSD servers
as dedicated DNS servers only.


> --
> Totus tuus, Glebius.
>



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