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Date:      Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:33:47 -0400
From:      dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson)
To:        Snob Art Genre <ben@narcissus.ml.org>
Cc:        Alec Kloss <alec@d2si.com>, pantzer@ludd.luth.se, dean@oec.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FTP site
Message-ID:  <v0213050baf2302e7fac6@[198.3.138.121]>

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At 2:14 PM 2/8/97, Snob Art Genre wrote:
>On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Dean Anderson wrote:
>
>> At 4:10 PM 2/7/97, Snob Art Genre wrote:
>> >On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Alec Kloss wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Well, what bit you this morning?  I agree that the FreeBSD
>> >> ftp site departs from traditional ftp sites in a few ways.
>> >> However, this does not make it "broken", just different.
>> >
>> >Really . . . you'd think he was paying for it or something.  Not to
>> >mention -- how many of us have, on our own time, read this guy's email and
>> >taken the time to respond helpfully?  If he doesn't like the freebsd ftp
>> >site perhaps he just shouldn't use it.
>>
>> I wouldn't use it if you weren't falsely advertising to have software you
>> don't have.  That's what "bit" me.
>
>On the FTP site is everything one needs to begin a make of the software
>involved, and from there the rest is taken care of.  It's pretty clearly a
>FreeBSD directory, and the ports work with FreeBSD.

Then just don't imply to anyone that you have msql, or anything else you
don't actually have.

>> Don't you think you are a bit unethical to claim to have a package you
>> don't really have?
>
>Unethical?  That makes it sound as if someone is benefitting.  And, as I
>said, everything necessary is there.
>
>I think you should rethink your attitude towards free sites -- had I put
>the amount of work into this site that the maintainers had, and taken as
>many pains as they have to make it user-friendly and intuitive, I would
>very much resent people like you coming in and criticizing.  Who exactly
>do you think you are that FTP sites should conform exactly to your
>mistaken idea of what they should be?  What's broken here isn't the site,
>it's your manners.

I use and support many free sites. In ten years, I have never come across
anyone so arrogant as you people.

You're the people who have to broken manners.    It is extraordinarily
impolite to waste people time and money with false promises of software
archives.

If you can't see that, and if you can't see that your site is a clickish
direct-internet-connected-freebsd-machines-only site, then you should not
list yourself as free. You aren't free at all.

Please stop advertising that you have msql and other software which you
don't actually have immediately.

                --Dean

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