Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:39:18 +0100 From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha support.s src/sys/i386/i386 swtch.s src/sys/kern kern_shutdown.c src/sys/sys systm.h Message-ID: <9202.1074631158@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:45:24 EST." <200401201445.24897.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
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In message <200401201445.24897.jhb@FreeBSD.org>, John Baldwin writes: >On Tuesday 20 January 2004 01:23 pm, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> In message <200401201234.45472.jhb@FreeBSD.org>, John Baldwin writes: >> >On Monday 19 January 2004 04:27 pm, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> Log: >> >> Add linenumber and source filename to panic(9) output. This thread already represents a prime example of the worst of the FreeBSD projects social dimension: The Gratuituos Bike Shed. On a generic kernel, this change adds 32088 non-executed bytes of text-segment to i386/GENERIC. For reference this 0.5% of the kernel and 12% of the size of the ACPI module. The email generated by this bike-shed however, has already occupied more disk-space on my computers than the kernel change ever will, and chances are that we have not even seen the tip of that iceberg. May I kindly remind you all that even if one person doesn't find that it adds anything to his already trained skills as a debugger, it does make life easier for other less gifted people in our project, or God forbid: actual users who may try to report a problem. And yes, we can do much better, tracebacks would be a great start, better panics also a great thing. And no, this does not solve the mid-east crisis, but it is still an improvement, even for me: If I save 1 minute because I do not have to hunt for the panic in the first place, then that is one minute more I can spend on the code. So if this makes your eyes water, I suggest you comment it out in your local source tree and pop in on the next meeting in your local user-group for some much needed perspective. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
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