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Date:      Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:17:58 -0500
From:      "Will Saxon" <WillS@housing.ufl.edu>
To:        <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "Sven Esbjerg" <esbjerg@xbsd.net>
Subject:   RE: Pkg-based base system.
Message-ID:  <0E972CEE334BFE4291CD07E056C76ED802E8683A@bragi.housing.ufl.edu>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David O'Brien [mailto:dev-null@NUXI.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:11 AM
> To: Sven Esbjerg
> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Pkg-based base system.
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 12:03:57PM +0100, Sven Esbjerg wrote:
> > If the freebsd team is positive towards having parts of=20
> freebsd as packages I
> > would like to commit some time into making this possible.=20
> Maybe not for 5.3
> > but for later releases.
>=20
> I for one, am negative towards having parts of [base] freebsd as
> packages.
> =20
> > I understand this discussion can turn into a bikeshed=20
> situation. I hope it
> > doesn't end there ;)
>=20
> It was a bikeshed starting with the very first email starting this
> thread...

I'm not sure why this is such a big problem - I have certainly=20
wanted to remove e.g. BIND or sendmail after deciding to use=20
something else. I think it would be most useful in a situation where
you have an already installed system that you then define NO_XXX=20
make variables for during a buildworld, and then want to clean out
the old/unupdated stuff.

On the other hand, I have been using Gentoo linux for awhile on this
amd64 workstation and I have to say, what a pain in the ass it was
to install! Imagine my surprise when I wanted to use traceroute and
found I needed to install it as a package. And vi. And syslog. And
cron! It was absurd.

-Will



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