Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:37:43 -0500 From: "Jack L. Stone" <jackstone@sage-one.net> To: Irwan Hadi <irwanhadi@phxby.engr.usu.edu>, "Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" <hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I KINDLY NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20020806113743.02d62db8@mail.sage-one.net> In-Reply-To: <20020806161507.GA4367@phxby.com> References: <20020806143924.GA35895@slytherin.ds.psu.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20020804120643.02df9810@mail.face2interface.com> <20020805025023.K94408-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20020805091120.GB1066@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <86it2p2mfn.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> <20020805025023.K94408-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <86n0s12mgo.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> <20020806092046.GQ1066@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20020806143924.GA35895@slytherin.ds.psu.edu>
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At 10:15 AM 8.6.2002 -0600, Irwan Hadi wrote: >On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 10:39:24AM -0400, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 11:20:46AM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >> > > From: Ken McGlothlen <mcglk@artlogix.com> >> > > | filter all mail with all caps in subject to /dev/null. >> >> > > Too many false positives. >> >> > this is somewhat schizophrenic for my taste. you block whole >> > countries, but /dev/null'ing ALL CAPS SUBJECTS would be too tight? >> >> Have you *ever* gotten a real message from .kr??? > >the same for .cn I guess, since I'm only getting spam and spam and spam >from .cn and .kr ... With readers of our tech mag and Tech mail lists, yes we get legitimate emails from Korea and 180 other countries, so the earlier post about blocking countries, Yahoo, Lycos, excite, all but .com, .org, etc would hurt and cut out thousands of legits. Thus, mostly a one-by-one look at headers is almost essential to block the bad guys.... eventually, the block list begins to work as a more qualifed list and doesn't penalize the good folks at those ISPs and countries.... The BIG problem I'm encountering is there is no consistant policy to handle spam, even within an ISP. Seems to depend on which admin shift is at the controls.... and largely a waste of time to complain as they get ignored. Some use this "block all" approach such as "bulk" even though we have legitimate mail lists (reflectors) and a bunch of good fellows are merely trying to communicate. Maybe one day this will settle down and a consistant approach will emerge. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net jackstone@sage-one.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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