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Date:      Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:28:38 +0100
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha support.s src/sys/i386/i386 swtch.s src/sys/kern kern_shutdown.c src/sys/sys systm.h 
Message-ID:  <10277.1074637718@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:09:48 PST." <20040120140012.N97860@root.org> 

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In message <20040120140012.N97860@root.org>, Nate Lawson writes:

>I'm not against this because of its size, I think it's the wrong way to
>go.

I'll agree that it is not the ideal direction, but considering that
proper tracebacks for panics have been on the wishlist since before
I got my commit bit, then I think it is better than nothing.

It is interesting to note that most of the positive feedback I have
had on this is from people who are not in the heavy-duty kernel
development end of things, it is system administrators and people
who use FreeBSD for doing embedded things

>Most panics are
>page faults so you have to go to the traceback anyway as knowing the
>file/line of the page fault handler is not useful.

I guess I'm getting a more specialized subset of panics reported then,
(but then, why would people send page faults to me until they suspected
some of my code ?)

>I appreciate your desire to improve debugging and hope you'll be
>interested in tackling some of the outstanding issues (like the ones I
>listed).

I'm all for improvements, but I'm also under imminent danger of being
crushed if my TODO pile falls over, so somebody [tm] should beat me
to it.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
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