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Date:      Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:00:50 -0000
From:      "Ian Watkinson" <ian.watkinson@ehsbrann.com>
To:        "'Greg 'groggy' Lehey'" <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        <questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Filtering on In Reply-to  Was RE: Procmail and Exim - Freebsd
Message-ID:  <0c4401c2b3f1$4edf9140$6502010a@subtlety>
In-Reply-To: <20030103231659.GJ43679@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:grog@FreeBSD.org]=20
> Sent: 03 January 2003 23:17
> To: Ian Watkinson
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Procmail and Exim - Freebsd
>=20
>=20
> On Friday,  3 January 2003 at 10:10:56 +0000, Ian Watkinson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 23:39, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> >> On Thursday,  2 January 2003 at 15:39:07 +0000, Ian=20
> Watkinson wrote:
> >>> Trying to get Fetmail - Procmail - Exim working.
> >>
> >> Please don't reply to a thread with a completely different topic.
> >
> > Thread? Threads are in usenet, this is a mailing list.
>=20
> Mail uses threads as well.  See RFC 2822.

Well you learn something new every day.

Care to explain why filtering on it, rather than subject is better in
your opinion, most list that I sub do, what I've just done, and go from
one
subject to another, with the subject changing as the contents do, your
filter, therefore would do nothing, as we're not talking about
X-windows, or Procmail, but=20
Filtering now.


>=20
> >> This message is:
> >>
> >> In-Reply-To: <20030102161006.M177@eldar.hayholt.org>
> >>
> >
> > That's not in my original headers looking at the full=20
> headers of the=20
> > message I posted.
>=20
> Yes, that's there.  That's where I got it from.

Strange, it must be a Evolution bug then, because even with full headers
on, I can't see it.=20





> >> That is a thread about problems starting X applications. =20
> It makes it
> >
> > Er, no the subject makes it quite clear it's a post about=20
> Procmail and=20
> > Exim, on Freebsd.
>=20
> No, you replied to a thread on X.  You changed the subject,=20
> but you left in the In-Reply-To: and Reference: headers.

But the subject still makes it clear what the message is about, again,
I've changed the subject here to match what
were talking about. Ignoring the original post, your filtering is still
out now in a valid case.




>=20
> >> really difficult to follow to find a completely unrelated set of=20
> >> messages in the thread.  It also makes it much more difficult to=20
> >> filter with procmail, BTW.
> >
> > What's wrong with filtering on Subject?
>=20
> It doesn't show the relationships between the messages.  Look=20
> at the two attachments.

But it doesn't show the relationship between this message and the last,
and this is a valide case of=20
a message thread changing topic.



Snip


>The In-Reply_To: and References: headers were almost certainly added by
your MUA.

I suspected that they would have, I was surprised not to be able to see
it in same message header when I looked at it Ximian Evolution.



>> and where the posting FAQ is for the list, as I seem to have missed=20
>> the don't reply to the list and change the subject bit..

>Try http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.  But this isn't related only
to FreeBSD-questions.  It's a general issue.  Note also that it makes
people less likely to want to reply to them.

Heh, do I see a familiar looking screenshot?

Can I have a copy of your pine config that allows you to filter like
that then?




>> information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for=20
>> the addressee(s) and access to this email by anyone else is=20
>> unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient then any=20
>> disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to=20
>> be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful.

>Please note that all FreeBSD-questions mail is archived and available
on the Web.  You shouldn't be sending confidential mail to it.

Well=20

1) It's a corporate thing, and=20
2) As it's addressed to an open list, I guess that makes everyone it's
intended addressess(s)






>Greg
>--
>When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If
you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients.
For more information, see >>>>>>    http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
>See complete headers for address and phone numbers

You're sig seperator is still broken btw, it needs to be "-- " not just
two dashes..



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