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Date:      Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:30:00 GMT
From:      Tuc <tuc@t-b-o-h.net>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: kern/177087: Wrong gid on file creations
Message-ID:  <201303211730.r2LHU0JM027604@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR kern/177087; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tuc <tuc@t-b-o-h.net>
To: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-bugs-local@be-well.ilk.org>
Cc: <freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>
Subject: Re: kern/177087: Wrong gid on file creations
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:21:30 -0400

 On 2013-03-20 11:34, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 > Tuc <tuc@t-b-o-h.net> writes:
 >
 >> On 2013-03-18 17:24, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 >>> Tuc <tuc@t-b-o-h.net> writes:
 >>>
 >>>>>How-To-Repeat:
 >>>> $ cd /tmp
 >>>> $ touch foo
 >>>> $ ls -l foo
 >>>> -rw-r--r--  1 tuc  wheel  0 Mar 18 20:36 foo
 >>>> $ grep tuc /etc/passwd
 >>>> tuc:*:1001:1001:Tuc:/home/tuc:/bin/sh
 >>>> $ id
 >>>> uid=1001(tuc) gid=1001(tuc) groups=1001(tuc),0(wheel)
 >>>> $ cd /var/tmp
 >>>> $ touch foo
 >>>> $ ls -l foo
 >>>> -rw-r--r--  1 tuc  wheel  0 Mar 18 20:37 foo
 >>>>
 >>>> root@e-nfs-01:/root # mkdir /foo
 >>>> root@e-nfs-01:/root # chmod 777 /foo
 >>>> root@e-nfs-01:/root # exit
 >>>> logout
 >>>> $ cd /foo
 >>>> $ touch foo
 >>>> $ ls -l foo
 >>>> -rw-r--r--  1 tuc  wheel  0 Mar 18 20:39 foo
 >>>
 >>> What group were you expecting?
 >>>
 >>> Those directories normally belong to the wheel group, so new
 >>> subdirectories will be too.
 >
 >>
 >> Expecting the primary group listed on my id. I guess I never 
 >> realized
 >> that it used the parents group. I expected it to give the id/group
 >> that I belong to.
 >
 > On some systems (SystemV-ish), the euid/egid are used by default, and 
 > I
 > think the sgid bit can be set on the directory to change that to the 
 > BSD
 > style. The BSD behaviour is the only one that POSIX requires.
 >
 > I believe that ACLs can be used to get the type of permissions you 
 > want,
 > but I don't know the syntax offhand.
 >
 >> The basis of the reason for my interest is that I'm trying to use
 >> NAS4Free, and when I create a volume and export it out NFS, every 
 >> file
 >> is getting the wheel group there too. I'm expecting it to pick up 
 >> the
 >> group of the user like our NetApp does. I tested on Linux, and when 
 >> I
 >> do the same things in /foo it creates it with my id/group, not the 
 >> one
 >> above. If I was to just use a normal FreeBSD NFS setup, how can I 
 >> make
 >> it pick up the user/group of the person creating the file (We are
 >> using it exported to a farm of CentOS...We wanted FreeBSD due to 
 >> ZFS).
 >
 > Normally, for directories where anyone can create their own files or
 > directories, we use the sticky bit. /tmp is set up this way, for 
 > example.
 > And normally every account has a home directory, owned by them and 
 > their
 > personal group.
 
 Alright. I appreciate your help and explanation . I guess we can close 
 this with "end user ignorant" as the resolution. :)
 
 Thanks, Tuc



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