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Date:      Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:52:22 -0500 (EST)
From:      mgraffam@mhv.net
To:        "Randy A. Katz" <randyk@ccsales.com>
Cc:        mgraffam@mhv.net, Steve Hovey <shovey@buffnet.net>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HACKED (again)
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.3.96.980101172736.28029E-100000@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980101143122.02cd5740@ccsales.com>

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Randy A. Katz wrote:
> >I dont think this is necessarily a problem with ssh. Ssh's security can
> >be circumvented through the insecurity of other things that are running,
> >such as ftp.

> How do they get that kind of control with ftp? Are there standard exploits?
> I had removed all anonymous access to that box...guess that wasn't it, eh?

Well, because ftp's passwords are sent in the clear one can sniff an FTP
session to get the account password, and like I said before once they
do this..they can change the user's ssh config files to get through ssh.

This is a common attack, a friend of mine had his system hacked in exactly
this way.. fortunately the attacker was a good natured guy, and emailed
his logs and details on the attack to my friend, who then secured ftp.

Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam@mhv.net)
http://www.mhv.net/~mgraffam -- Philosophy, Religion, Computers, Crypto, etc
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity.
Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the
guidance of another. . .Sapere aude! Have the courage to use your own
understanding!" - Immanuel Kant "What is Enlightenment?"

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