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Date:      Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:34:46 -0500
From:      Joe Auty <joe@netmusician.org>
To:        =?UTF-8?B?RWR3YXJkIFRvbWFzeiBOYXBpZXJhxYJh?= <trasz@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Migrating from NFSv3 to v4 - NFSv4 ACL/permission confusion
Message-ID:  <4CFD6506.7090901@netmusician.org>
In-Reply-To: <F8F7A4F9-7E1F-4B32-98D3-F595063238D7@FreeBSD.org>
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Edward Tomasz Napiera=C5=82a wrote:
> Wiadomo=C5=9B=C4=87 napisana przez Joe Auty w dniu 2010-12-06, o godz. =
23:02:
>> Rick Macklem wrote:
>>> I don't know anything about ZFS, but you could try getfacl/setfacl on=
 the
>>> client and see what happens?
>>>
>>> Edward Napierala (trasz@freebsd.org) did commit a recent change w.r.t=
.
>>> NFSv4 ACLs and I remember the discussion saying something like "after
>>> this change, chmod no longer does anything once ACLs are enabled, but=
 I
>>> have no idea if it is relevant.
>
> Erm, no.  There is a change in the queue that will change chmod behavio=
ur
> wrt. ACLs, but 1. it's not committed yet, and 2. chmod will continue to
> work.
>
>>> Also, make sure "ls -l" is not reporting "nobody". If the user/group
>>> name mapping isn't working, most Setattr Ops will fail.
>>>
>>> rick
>>>
>> Thanks Rick,
>>
>> I will look into this, but for the benefit of my own education, are
>> NFSv4 ACLs supposed to be intertwined or separate from standard Unix
>> permissions? I'm confused as to how the ACLs have changed from v3, or =
if
>> this is even relevant to my problem not really knowing how they work a=
nd
>> why they are needed :)
>
> Both POSIX.1e and NFSv4 ACLs are similar in that they both influence
> the mode, and get influenced by it.  In other words, when you change
> the ACL, the mode gets updated; when you change the mode, the ACL gets
> updated.  Also, for both POSIX.1e and NFSv4 ACLs, file mode continues
> to work as usual if you ignore the ACL part.
>
Thanks for this!

So, if I want to just ignore the NFSv4 ACLs on account of not needing
anything beyond the POSIX ACLs, I'm free to do so without consequence...
Correct?




> Good introduction might be the setfacl(1) manual page.
>
> --
> If you cut off my head, what would I say?  Me and my head, or me and my=
 body?
>


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