Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:13:42 +0100 From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" <bandix@looksharp.net>, David Greenman <dg@root.com>, Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Top-level domains (was: Why no Indians and Arabs?) Message-ID: <a0510102ab84370b13185@[10.0.1.22]> In-Reply-To: <3C1DBE25.B03DC40@mindspring.com> References: <20011216044542.Y86103-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> <3C1CA6D2.1AC0F625@mindspring.com> <20011217092422.W62493@monorchid.lemis.com> <3C1DBE25.B03DC40@mindspring.com>
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At 1:43 AM -0800 on 2001/12/17, Terry Lambert wrote: > In the UK, it was ".co.uk". in fact, most of Europe used X.500 > ordering, as in "uk.co.demon" for a very long time. I know that this naming scheme was used on JANET, and I'm sure it may have been used in other enclaves as well, but IMO they never were part of the proper Internet -- they were behind gateways that did not allow direct access of one network from the other, and handled the necessarily left-to-right vs. right-to-left translation, etc.... > Since the first time I saw "the Web" was ~1991, and since the > ARPANet, which became the NSFNet, which became the Internet, did > not allow commercial use until it was deregulated out from under > auspices of the NSF, I find that a little hard to believe. How quickly people forget about things like AlterNet, the Commercial Internet Exchange, and the extreme amount of work that groups like Uunet (and other members of CIX) had to go through in order to ensure that no commercial traffic was transited via the NSFnet backbone.... IIRC, CIX and AlterNet had a very valid parallel raison de etre' for about a year, after which NSFnet was pulled from the public side and made entirely private (at which point I think they started work on Internet II), when CIX and AlterNet (and others) stepped into the breach to fill the gap. That was a pretty nasty three to six month period of time, but after that, NSFnet was just a bad memory. > The big explosion in domain name registration; in fact, the > major justification for them charging for domain names -- I have > several which predate registration costs entirely, from the very > early 1990's -- was the registration by Dupont of several hundred > trademark based domain names in a signle day. Even if that was the first mass registration, there were plenty of organizations outside the US that already had registrations in the .com, .net, .edu, and .org gTLDs. The issue here is not the reason for the first explosion in registrations, but the simple existence of gTLD registrations outside the US from a very early period. -- Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be> H4sICIFgXzsCA2RtYS1zaWcAPVHLbsMwDDvXX0H0kkvbfxiwVw8FCmzAzqqj1F4dy7CdBfn7 Kc6wmyGRFEnvvxiWQoCvqI7RSWTcfGXQNqCUAnfIU+AT8OZ/GCNjRVlH0bKpguJkxiITZqes MxwpSucyDJzXxQEUe/ihgXqJXUXwD9ajB6NHonLmNrUSK9nacHQnH097szO74xFXqtlbT3il wMsBz5cnfCR5cEmci0Rj9u/jqBbPeES1I4PeFBXPUIT1XDSOuutFXylzrQvGyboWstCoQZyP dxX4dLx0eauFe1x9puhoi0Ao1omEJo+BZ6XLVNaVpWiKekxN0VK2VMpmAy+Bk7ZV4SO+p1L/ uErNRS/qH2iFU+iNOtbcmVt9N16lfF7tLv9FXNj8AiyNcOi1AQAA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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