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Date:      Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:17:43 -0500 (EST)
From:      Krzysztof Adamski <kadamski@netsurf.net>
To:        Jim Flowers <jflowers@ezo.net>
Cc:        portmaster-users@portmasters.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: (PM) Infrastructure Design with Portmasters and FreeBSD/Zebra (long)
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.21.0112191413480.4776-100000@white.netsurf.net>
In-Reply-To: <013b01c188ad$ea3bc570$22b197ce@ezo.net>

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Replacing routable IPs with RFC1918 on a PM will work just fine, but there
is one problem with it. It breaks Path-MTU-discovery protocol. This would
be a problem for routers that can have different MTU size of different
interfaces, like a PM with dial in users.
If you are efficiently using your address space you should not have a
problem with getting more addresses.

K

 On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Jim Flowers wrote:

> Our current ISP infrastructure has a head-end connection to the Internet and
> a number of remote POPs at the end of point-to-point connections.  The
> Internet routers are IRX-211s and the pop-connecting routers are IRX-114s.
> Customer connections at the pops include dialup via PM3s and point-to-point
> dedicated via fbsd routers.  5 subnetted class C address blocks are used
> including /30 on the numbered point-to-point links.  Routing is ospf
> (Zebra-0.92a on fbsd).  Additional Internet sources are being added to
> several of the POPs using BGP routing as are some inter-pop telecom links
> with ospf.
> 
> I am considering renumbering all of the interior (to the Internet)
> infrastructure subnets to RFC1918 private addresses, primarily to promote
> security but also to reclaim public addresses.  Customers, both dialup and
> dedicated, would still have public addresses routed by ospf over the RFC1918
> infrastructure to allow full access to Internet services.  Local servers
> that require access to the Internet connections would have public addresses
> on their own network allowing connections to the Internet via the RFC1918
> infrastructure.  Customers would also have the option to connect via a
> secured public subnet.
> 
> I question that a PM3 with a private Ethernet interface and a public
> assigned address pool will work.  I think connections would just be routed
> by ospf instead of proxy arp so it would be OK.  Is this correct?
> 
> This layout also relies on a web proxy (squid) host with a secondary public
> address on the RFC1918 subnetwork to allow http connections to Internet
> hosts and other cache servers.  Eliminates loading router to unsecured
> public subnet that would result if the web proxy host were placed there.
> Seems a compromise to the concept though explicit filtering at the IRX-211
> could minimize the vulnerability.  Opinions?
> 
> I am also thinking of connecting all 3 subnets (private, public and public
> secured) to a vlan segmented level 2 switch to take away sniffing capability
> from a compromised host (mirrored to the MGMT host for management use).
> Will this introduce additional problems?
> 
> Any other caveats?
> 
> Alternate suggestions?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Fixed width charcter spacing ASCII map follow:
> 
> POP layout
> 
> ================= Internet
>     |
>     |                    ]--------> to previous POP (RFC1019)
>    [IRX-211]     [IRX-411]--------> to next POP (RFC1918)
>     |    |           |
>     |    +--+--------+-------+-------+---- RFC1918 subnet
>     |       |        |       |       |
>     |     [W/P]     [R]    [PM3]    [R]
>     |                |       |       +--------> ptp
>     |                |       Unsecure Customers (public)
>     |                |
>     |                +----------+-- unsecured public subnet
>     |                           |
>     |    [W/P]    [MGMT]    [servers]
>     |      |         |
>     +------+---------+-------+---- secured (public) subnet
>            |         |       |
>        [servers]   [PM3]    [R]
>        (secure)      |       +--------> ptp
>                      Secure Customers (public)
> 
> IRX-211 and PM3 for unsecured network uses minimal filtering
> IRX-211 and PM3 for secured network uses maximal filtering
> RFC1918 addresses can only be reached from secure subnet
> Unsecure customers may use W/P (web proxy)
> Secure customers must use W/P
> Management from Internet requires first to connect to MGMT host
> Management by dialup to directly connected subnet only
> 
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