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Date:      Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:24:54 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha support.s src/sys/i386/i386 swtch.s src/sys/kern kern_shutdown.c src/sys/sys systm.h
Message-ID:  <20040121022454.GA28078@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040120164435.I98793@root.org>
References:  <200401192127.i0JLRBL3041817@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040120175334.W3279@gamplex.bde.org> <20040120015009.W39477@odysseus.silby.com> <20040120111923.T96919@root.org> <20040121004238.GP47639@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20040120164435.I98793@root.org>

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On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 05:04:12PM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote:

> I would have gotten 100x more value from making options DDB the default in
> GENERIC (at least until we branch -stable) and having all page faults
> generate a backtrace.  This is a 1 line change that would save hours, not
> minutes, of roundtrip email.  Look at reports of panics in the
> freebsd-current@ archives and see how many result in a request for a
> backtrace.

Yes, please!  GNATS is also full of useless PRs that tie up committer
resources in trying to extract meaningful debugging from the
submitter.  This would be a huge step towards reducing the number of
bugs in 5.x.

Kris

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