Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:03:52 +0100 From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net>, Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reasonable decision-making [Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!] Message-ID: <12569.944899432@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:20:19 PST." <2590.944896819@zippy.cdrom.com>
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In message <2590.944896819@zippy.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: >> The ATA driver went golden now, and to make sure nobody is distracted >> from testing it before 4.0-RELEASE is cut, the wd driver will be >> removed. >> >> It's really that simple. > >Well, I'm not sure that's really true yet and I would honestly prefer >it if you wouldn't make "conclusive statements" like this without >waiting for a reasonable period of time, *after* the flame war in >progress has died down and everyone's done venting and flapping their >arms, to come to a decision with all the "votes" carefully weighed >(and appropriately weighted). > >To do otherwise would send a strong message that your intention was to >procede regardless of public opinion, which would further imply that >the more consensus-based process of deciding these things somehow does >not apply to you. I am keeping very close track of the messages from people who report problems with the new drivers, but I am totally ignoring the noise by people who "just on principle" are against this move. >In any case, the Real Issue here appears to be whether or not it's >necessary to socially engineer people by removing the wd driver one >week after the ata driver was declared "golden" or whether it's >perhaps more prudent to simply leave the damn thing there for now and >just stop maintaining it, leaving its future to Darwin and/or some >future committer who takes an axe to it because it's rotted for so >long that it finally no longer even builds and/or functions at all. >All other discussion has been more or less tangental to that issue. Unless we break kernel configs with the wd driver in it, we will never get rid of it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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