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Date:      Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:46:16 -0500
From:      David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
To:        Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [OT] Re: apple mac laptop.
Message-ID:  <3E1F909D-B948-45D3-9786-EC8CB011E52D@hiwaay.net>
In-Reply-To: <20080808194457.GA81628@thought.org>
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On Aug 8, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Gary Kline wrote:

> 	So besides the mac firewall [whatever], the laptop will be
> 	behind my pfSense box.  So... --and to be completely honest, the
> 	main reason for this >> $1000 laptop is *security*.  When she was
> 	younger I wasn't that concerned is some kiddie cracker learned
> 	that her favorite pet was a kitty.  Different now.

MacOS X comes with good old ipfw. Apple has added a 2nd firewall on  
top of that for 10.5, but apparently not pf.

> 	Another question: can I install X11 without it bothering whatever
> 	kind of mac front-end windowing comes with?  Be great if I could
> 	admin this BSD-based computer from my office.


Yes, Apple provides X11 as an optional install on the included system  
DVD, but not preloaded from the factory.

While you are loading X11 I suggest you also install Xcode. Then again  
I think Xcode was pre-installed on my Mac Pro. Xcode is Apple's  
software development environment.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
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Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.




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