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Date:      Sat, 08 Feb 2003 23:02:50 -0500
From:      northern snowfall <dbailey27@ameritech.net>
To:        Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, chat@freebsd.org, matrix@altima.net, dbailey27@ameritech.net
Subject:   Re: languages
Message-ID:  <3E45D2EA.9040209@ameritech.net>
References:  <200302072309.AA423166622@altima.net>	<15940.38588.692767.171995@guru.mired.org>	<3E44980B.20607@ameritech.net>	<15940.39707.55965.640089@guru.mired.org>	<3E4521B8.5000504@potentialtech.com> <15941.20500.925676.52788@guru.mired.org> <3E45A4D4.1080702@potentialtech.com> <3E45A960.9090903@ameritech.net> <3E45CAE7.9020102@potentialtech.com>

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> Well, I don't know where you got that definition, but both 
> Merriam-Webster
> and foldoc agree with you enough that I'll have to bow out and admit that
> you, Gary, and Mike are right.
> Even if I don't like it ;) 

Same definition, different wording.

> Well, this is even further off-topic and has more to do with how big
> of assholes people have been all through history, and less to do with
> the official classification of whether or not something is a computer
> language or not. 

Its not off topic at all =)
The point is that individuals tend to rationalize their perception of 
society,
environment, self, etc. based on ideals that help create some kind of
equilibrium relative to ego. This is what you would call "being an asshole"
when individuals prioritize their need for equilibrium over an understanding
that other individual's scope of self/research has worth as well. You're 
talking
about "official classifications" when you don't attempt to prove 
official class,
rather, your own perception of "language". I see this as a parallel to 
the Navaho
instance in that something is only "relevant" to individuals when it 
benefits
them directly. Indirect benefits tend to become ignored and deprioritized
in favor of a pseudo sense of self worth. HTML/XML/and friends are all
languages (despite attempts to underplay their relevance) whose usage
is directly relative to a developer's facet of research).
Don

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