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Date:      Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:54:11 -0800
From:      Timothy Beyer <beyert@cs.ucr.edu>
To:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The future of X?
Message-ID:  <20031112105411.589adcca.beyert@cs.ucr.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3FB27B9E.2000902@potentialtech.com>
References:  <20031112184850.0f752d52.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> <3FB27B9E.2000902@potentialtech.com>

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> Isn't there another project trying to put together a replacement for X?
> I thought it was called "Berlin", but I can't find it anywhere on the net,
> so I can't be sure.

It is now called Fresco.  (Berlin is one component of Fresco I believe)  Looks very interesting, makes use of CORBA for communications, and uses an integrated C++ toolkit called Interviews.  Too bad they changed licenses from BSD to LGPL... :(

As for Keith's X Server, I don't think its a fork.  I think it fits into the existing model.  Also, from what I understand, Keith's work is slowly getting into XFree86.  (though I'm not sure if 4.4 includes any of that work)

Xouvert, as the page states, is an experimental/development "branch" (assuming Arch is everything they claim it to be) of XFree86, not a fork.  I don't know if it will go very far, though.  My bet is on Keith's work.

--Tim


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:27:42 -0500
Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:

> Miguel Mendez wrote:
> > Several places have commented on the subject already, it's currently on
> > /. as well. The relevant link:
> > http://freedesktop.org/~keithp/screenshots/
> > 
> > So, I'm wondering, what do you guys think about the dropshadow and
> > transparent windows thing Mr. Packard and friends are working on? Could
> > it help on the adoption of *ix on the desktop? I personally don't mind
> > some eye candy now and then, so, as long as it can be turned off, it
> > looks good in my book. I've read some comments saying that some people
> > get a better undestanding of the desktop if the windows cast a shadow.
> > On the negative side, I don't think having 3 forks is that good
> > (XFree86, Xouvert and this stuff). FWIW, the screenshots sure are pretty :)
> 
> Isn't there another project trying to put together a replacement for X?
> I thought it was called "Berlin", but I can't find it anywhere on the net,
> so I can't be sure.
> 
> -- 
> Bill Moran
> Potential Technologies
> http://www.potentialtech.com
> 
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