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Date:      Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:42:41 +0200
From:      Palle Girgensohn <girgen@pingpong.net>
To:        Kaarthik Sivakumar <kaarthik@comcast.net>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Revisited: firefox and xemacs locking up/crashing "in pairs"???
Message-ID:  <3880000.1080546161@rambutan.pingpong.net>
In-Reply-To: <864qs85hu2.fsf@comcast.net>
References:  <15980000.1080520733@palle.girgensohn.se> <864qs85hu2.fsf@comcast.net>

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--On Monday, March 29, 2004 00:43:17 -0500 Kaarthik Sivakumar 
<kaarthik@comcast.net> wrote:

>>>> "PG" == Palle Girgensohn <girgen@pingpong.net> writes:
> PG> Hi,
> PG> Remember this old thread? It's been a while, I've been running
> PG> firebird 0.6.1, rock stable, since higher versions crash.
>
> PG> I just updated firefox again, to 0.8_4, to see if this has
> PG> changed, and I think I have pinned down what causes the error,
> PG> although I still can't understand why.
>
> PG> It is the bitmapped fonts from the XFree86-75dpi | 100dpi
> PG> packages, that firefox cannot stand. Removing those directories
> PG> from the system's root fonts.cache-1 file makes the problem go
> PG> away.
>
> PG> Details:
>
> PG> Firefox >= 0.7 crashes often, and sometimes xemacs freezes as this
> PG> happens.
>
> PG> I have a standard X setup (well right now the X server is 3.3.99
> PG> snap, but it wasn't before, and this has nothing to do with it). I
> PG> use xfs for serving all fonts, but this seems also to be beside
> PG> the point - AFAIKT, firefox uses fontconfig/freetype2 and not X
> PG> for font rendering, right?
>
> If fontconfig/freetype2 is one of the suspects here, then I am not
> sure why XEmacs should freeze. XEmacs doesnt use either. Unless you
> are using the patch floating around that makes XEmacs use Xft or
> fontconfig, I am not sure which. When this freeze happens, does XEmacs
> return to life? Does changing the XEmacs' default font using Options
> menu cause it to not freeze? Sorry, I am approaching this from the
> XEmacs' side and not Firefox's, and I am not sure how useful that is
> for you.

I use the xemacs port, I doubt it has Xft linked in. Since the same thing 
works in mozilla, only fails in firefox, I'm not sure it is 
fontconfig/freetype2?

> I use XEmacs 21.5 (although I compiled from source, without the patch)
> and linux-mozillafirebird 0.7 and I dont see this problem.

What happens with native firebird?

/Palle



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